Atheism is a RELIGION

[Matheist]

#Claiming Atheism is not a Religion (Nature) is an argument.

No, that is a claim, not an argument.The argument is the defense of the claim. When it is supplied, the claim becomes a conclusion of the argument.

The only doctrine that is not being religious is Naturalist. Those who completely hear and obey Natural Order. They are not being religious because the universal order is not a Religion.

Accordingly, you are making an argument and have a burden of proof for completely hear and obey Natural Order.

Where is your proof?


On the other hand, we have many proofs and evidences that support the objective of religious practices for obeying natural order, especially from the animists.

 

[Matheist]

You clearly do not know what religion is. Or atheism. Or theism, for that matter.

I don't? Those definitions of religion from Oxford, Merriam Webster etc.. You're saying they are wrong? This is funny.

 

[ChristineM]

Which part? The definition #1 #151 Atheism is a Religion . #6 #32 #37 #41

Which part of "atheism is a religion like NOT collecting stamps us a hobby" do you not understand?

Religion requires belief in a superhuman power, god or gods

What part of "disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods" do you not understand?

 

[ChristineM]

I don't? Those definitions of religion from Oxford, Merriam Webster etc.. They are wrong? This is funny.

You mean they dont agree with your spurious definitions?

 

[Matheist]

Which part of "atheism is a religion like NOT collecting stamps us a hobby" do you not understand?

Religion requires belief in a superhuman power, god or gods

What part of "disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods" do you not understand?

This is a Religion, now prove you are not.

religion
/rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/
noun

1. the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

synonyms: faith, belief, divinity, worship, creed, teaching, doctrine, theology; More

Pure Agnostic: God's existence and non-existence are exactly EQUIPROBABLE.
Weak Atheist: I do not know whether God exists, but I'm declined to be SKEPTICAL.
De-facto Atheist: I cannot know for certain, but I think God is very IMPROBABLE.​

2. a particular system of faith and worship.

Also the Atheism activities; the system of faith and not rooteed in logic, science, philosophy, facts but hasty generalization.
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3. a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion.

Certainly.
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Therefore, Atheism is a religion with 320,000,000 Gods.

Definition of GOD

1 capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: such as

a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe

b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind​

2 : a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship

specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality

Greek gods of love and war​

3 : a person or thing of supreme value

had photos of baseball's gods pinned to his bedroom wall​

4 : a powerful ruler


The definition of God from the Quran

Have you seen the one who has taken his ego as his GOD? (45:23/24:43)

They took their religious scholars and their monks and the Christ, son of Mary, as their Lords besides God while they were ordered to only serve the One Nature's god. (9:31)

worship
/ˈwəːʃɪp/
noun

1. the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity.

"worship of the Mother Goddess"

synonyms: reverence, revering, worshipping, veneration, venerating, adoration, adoring, -olatry, devotion, praise, thanksgiving, praising, praying to, glorification, glorifying, glory, exaltation, exalting, extolment, extolling, homage, respect, honour, honouring, esteem; More​

2. used in addressing or referring to an important or high-ranking person, especially a magistrate or mayor.

"we were soon joined by His Worship the Mayor"​

verb

1.show reverence and adoration for (a deity).

 

[SkepticThinker]

There is no point of repetition and you can read the first post, #151 and . #6 #32 #37 #41.

The official definition of Atheism said "God (s)"..

It does not say Allah, Jesus, Lord Shiva etc? It says God or Gods... There are 320,000,000 Gods on Earth. Hinduism alone has 33,000,000 Gods. Some say it is One God and the other is the attributes etc. But it is Gods.

Therefore, Atheism about

1. Belief in 320,000,000 Gods, or
2. Disbelief in 320,000,000 Gods, or
3. Without belief in 320,000,000 Gods​

That is the argument from the official definition of Atheism. Either one is valid as Atheism.

I've read the entire thread. Spamming the same thing you've posted numerous times doesn't answer my question. Maybe take your own advice on the repetition thing.

Atheists lack belief in god(s). Therefore, they do not believe in 320,000,000 Gods. Your assertion makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. You also didn't answer my question. It's like you didn't read my post at all.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Fine, that is one of the elements from the official definition of Atheism.. .There are two other elements which make one as an Atheist. The definition #151 Atheism is a Religion . #6 #32 #37 #41

So what is your argument on the other twos?

I'm still wondering what the answers to my questions are.

Do you believe in the Easter Bunny? Is your lack of belief in regards to the Easter Bunny a religion?
Do you collect stamps? If you don't collect stamps, are you practicing a stamp religion?

There is one single thing that makes someone an atheist; that is lack of belief in god claims.

 

[Matheist]

You mean they dont agree with your spurious definitions?

Which part it does not agree with my argument? Read here: #205 . It clearly does not agree with your claims.

 

[Matheist]

I'm still wondering what the answers to my questions are.

Do you believe in the Easter Bunny? Is your lack of belief in regards to the Easter Bunny a religion?
Do you collect stamps? If you don't collect stamps, are you practicing a stamp religion?

There is one single thing that makes someone an atheist; that is lack of belief in god claims.

Forget about your Easter Bunny.. here is the fact #205 . Can you justify your belief or not?

 

[SkepticThinker]

The definition of "worship", and the definition of God

The definition #1 #151 Atheism is a Religion . #6 #32 #37 #41

I've already read your nonsensical posts.

Please explain how atheism is a religion, by answering questions about the criteria that make something a religion.

What and how do you think atheists worship a superhuman controlling power?
What "system of faith" are atheists adhering to by not believing in a thing?
What or who do you think atheists are worshiping?
What tenets and/or dogma do you think all atheists follow?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Does it seem that Atheist have misunderstood the word God, perhaps?




Definition of GOD

1 capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: such as

a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe

b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind​

2 : a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship

specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality​

Greek gods of love and war​

3 : a person or thing of supreme value

had photos of baseball's gods pinned to his bedroom wall​

4 : a powerful ruler


The definition of God from the Quran

Have you seen the one who has taken his ego as his GOD? (45:23/24:43)

They took their religious scholars and their monks and the Christ, son of Mary, as their Lords besides God while they were ordered to only serve the One Nature's god. (9:31)

Could you just address the point?

 

[ChristineM]

This is a Religion, now prove you are not.

I, and many others have proved it on this thread. However, as the fundimentalist you appear to be then even if the proof smacked you in the mouth you would deny it.

So you have no argument to prove your claims.

 

[Matheist]

I've read the entire thread. Spamming the same thing you've posted numerous times doesn't answer my question. Maybe take your own advice on the repetition thing.

Atheists lack belief in god(s). Therefore, they do not believe in 320,000,000 Gods. Your assertion makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. You also didn't answer my question. It's like you didn't read my post at all.

"Lack of belief" alone does not define Atheism... There are two more elements in you definition, read here: #151 .. So , what is your answer?

 

[Matheist]

Could you just address the point?

The definition of Atheism says/infers the belief in Gods.

The definition #1 #151 Atheism is a Religion . #6 #32#37 #41 #205​

Therefore, a Religion.

What is your proof that it is not?

 

[SkepticThinker]

I don't? Those definitions of religion from Oxford, Merriam Webster etc.. You're saying they are wrong? This is funny.

I'm saying you don't get it and your arguments are nonsensical. Perhaps if you actually bothered answering my questions, I may change my mind.

 

[ChristineM]

Which part it does not agree with my argument? Read here: #205 . It clearly does not agree with your claims.

My claims are valid based on definition.

You have already admitted you dont believe in definition. Therefore any factual argument made against your claims automatically wins

 

[SkepticThinker]

Forget about your Easter Bunny.. here is the fact #205 .

It speaks directly to the point. Please answer the question.

Do you consider your lack of belief in the Easter Bunny to be a religion?

Can you justify your belief or not?

I lack belief in god(s).

Do you have some good reason(s) and evidence demonstrating that god(s) exist?

 

[Matheist]

My claims are valid based on definition.

You have already admitted you dont believe in definition. Therefore any factual argument made against your claims automatically wins

I don't get it. You can do better than this blind claim.

 

[SkepticThinker]

"Lack of belief" alone does not define Atheism... There are two more elements in you definition, read here: #151 .. So , what is your answer?

Lack of belief in god(s) is what makes me an atheist, as I've said several times.

 

[ChristineM]

"Lack of belief" alone does not define Atheism... There are two more elements in you definition, read here: #151 .. So , what is your answer?

Making stuff up about the definition of atheism is simply made up stuff.

The definition of atheism is clear.