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Can Non-Abrahamics and Abrahamics be from same God?

InvestigateTruth

Well-Known Member
Although the Hindu, Budhism and other Non-Abrahamic Religions seem to be different than the Abrahamics ones, Can they be from the same God, but were revealed or manifested in different ways, based on cultural differences
Could God have spoke dharma, the way He did to Hindus, but in other cultures, He manifested Prophets as seen in Abrahamics.

Would this verse of Quran, explain it?

"To every People have We appointed [different] rites and ceremonies which they must follow: let them not then dispute with thee on the matter, but do thou invite (them) to thy Lord: for thou art assuredly on the Right Way. 2:67

Comment in bracket is by myself.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Personally I see it is the only way to recognise we are one human race. That we all are formed from the same dust. That creation had the one same source.

Regards Tony
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It's My Birthday!
Although the Hindu, Budhism and other Non-Abrahamic Religions seem to be different than the Abrahamics ones, Can they be from the same God, but were revealed or manifested in different ways, based on cultural differences
Could God have spoke dharma, the way He did to Hindus, but in other cultures, He manifested Prophets as seen in Abrahamics.

Would this verse of Quran, explain it?

"To every People have We appointed [different] rites and ceremonies which they must follow: let them not then dispute with thee on the matter, but do thou invite (them) to thy Lord: for thou art assuredly on the Right Way. 2:67

Comment in bracket is by myself.

That makes over 4000 gods redundant (and dont forget the 33 million hindu gods)

Saying to the people who worship/worshipped any of those gods that there god is really a different god, your god is the key to wars of religion.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Although the Hindu, Budhism and other Non-Abrahamic Religions seem to be different than the Abrahamics ones, Can they be from the same God, but were revealed or manifested in different ways, based on cultural differences
Could God have spoke dharma, the way He did to Hindus, but in other cultures, He manifested Prophets as seen in Abrahamics.

Would this verse of Quran, explain it?

"To every People have We appointed [different] rites and ceremonies which they must follow: let them not then dispute with thee on the matter, but do thou invite (them) to thy Lord: for thou art assuredly on the Right Way. 2:67

Comment in bracket is by myself.

The god in abrahamic religions is not the same as Buddha in buddhism. not is the gods or brahma in buddhism same as the abrahamic god. in my understading :)
In buddhism it said that there are thousands of gods and buddhas, but only a few have ever given teachings to human realm.
 

InvestigateTruth

Well-Known Member
The god in abrahamic religions is not the same as Buddha in buddhism. not is the gods or brahma in buddhism same as the abrahamic god. in my understading :)
In buddhism it said that there are thousands of gods and buddhas, but only a few have ever given teachings to human realm.
Yes, but even in Abrahamic Religions, which all believe in One God, He is called by a different name, by different nations. Arabs call Him, Allah, Hebrews Called Him yehowa, and Persian call Him Khoda. English people call Him God. Zoroastrians call Him Ahura...etc. So, in Budhism, He may have focused more on teachings, and introducing Himself as teachings. In other places, as God, or Prophets, or Son of God. Depending on the Age, and culture of people, He manifested His Religion in different ways. How would it make sense to you, that there was only One Buddha who appeared only in certain geographical area. Why no Buddha appeared among Arabs, or Jews?
 
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Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Would this verse of Quran, explain it?

"To every People have We appointed [different] rites and ceremonies which they must follow: let them not then dispute with thee on the matter, but do thou invite (them) to thy Lord: for thou art assuredly on the Right Way. 2:67

Who is this speaking to? The ways of Islam are many. They seem not to be able to agree among themselves. This seems to encourage folks to see whatever way they happen to follow to be the right way. So the "right way" is whatever way a person happens to be following at that moment?

Also who's "we" that did the appointing?

What you've added changes the entire meaning of what is written IMO. This may make it more favorable to your views but I doubt your meaning is what was intended.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Yes, but even in Abrahamic Religions, which all believe in One God, He is called by a different name, by different nations. Arabs call Him, Allah, Hebrews Called Him yehowa, and Persian call Him Khoda. English people call Him God. Zoroastrians call Him berahma...etc. So, in Budhism, He may have focused more on teachings, and introducing Himself as teachings. In other places, as God, or Prophets, or Son of God. Depending on the Age, and culture of people, He manifested His Religion in different ways. How would it make sense to you, that there was only One Buddha who appeared only in certain geographical area. Why no Buddha appeared among Arabs, or Jews?

Well the God experience is in western world where Buddha is in the asian world in my understanding this has to do with how we as a people are in the western world and in the asian world.

Even as a person from the western word (Norway) i have always felt more drawn to the asian way of life and culture. I can not fully explain why but as far my understanding of past life i have been asian in previous life. so it might explain why buddhism is closer to me then abrahamic religions.

When looking at existance outside our human real there is consiousness, this is what i think abrahaic religions call God. a living non physical entity that everything expand from, and who can take physical form when humans need guidance in how to go back to true consiousness.

Buddha did teach singel pointed consiousness and this we experience in meditation. but only by getting rid of the physical body can we trully experiene singel pointed consiousness.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Although the Hindu, Budhism and other Non-Abrahamic Religions seem to be different than the Abrahamics ones, Can they be from the same God, but were revealed or manifested in different ways, based on cultural differences
Could God have spoke dharma, the way He did to Hindus, but in other cultures, He manifested Prophets as seen in Abrahamics.
....

I don’t think God would sent contradictory teachings. But I believe other nations can have had God also teaching them. And it is possible that other people have also had right understanding, because:

For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without the law. As many as have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. For it isn't the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law will be justified (for when Gentiles who don't have the law do by nature the things of the law, these, not having the law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience testifying with them, and their thoughts among themselves accusing or else excusing them) in the day when God will judge the secrets of men, according to my gospel, by Jesus Christ.
Romans 2:12-16
 

InvestigateTruth

Well-Known Member
I don’t think God would sent contradictory teachings. But I believe other nations can have had God also teaching them. And it is possible that other people have also had right understanding, because:

For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without the law. As many as have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. For it isn't the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law will be justified (for when Gentiles who don't have the law do by nature the things of the law, these, not having the law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience testifying with them, and their thoughts among themselves accusing or else excusing them) in the day when God will judge the secrets of men, according to my gospel, by Jesus Christ.
Romans 2:12-16
So, God is like a Doctor who prescribes teachings to cure the spiritual as well as other problems of a people. If a doctor, prescribes Antibiotic to a person one day, but he prescribes a different medication to a different person at a different time, would that be contradictory? To Jews, He gave the Laws. To Muslims Quran with different Laws. To Hindus, a different set of teachings. Each is suitable for a specific people at a different time.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
If it is the same God, most certainly the different faiths have a huge difference of understanding of it. Perhaps it is like a man. He is friend to one person, enemy to another, lover to his spouse, father to his child, uncle to his niece, a son to his father, gullible consumer to the crook, patient to a doctor, money to the funeral director, food to the worms.

Nah, I personally don't think so. Too many masks to wear to be considered the same entity.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
There's only one God, just that there's people who put their own hopes and fears, fantasies on what God is or isn't.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It's My Birthday!
If one thinks this way, then one is not really Godly in their heart. :)

There is no compulsion in religion.

Regards Tony


Yet throughout recorded history hundreds of wars and millions of people have been killed in wars where one side or both have been trying to impose their religion on the opposition
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Speaking purely in "can be" hypotheticals? Sure. In terms of reality? It's demonstrably false. At least if you respect what other cultures are telling you instead of re-writing their cultural narratives with your own. My gods are not God, full stop. It is both disrespectful and annoying to have monotheists counter this with things like "but your gods are aspects of the one" or similar. I get that monotheists have to do this to rationalize their monotheism, but just... stop. Stop ignoring and disregarding other people's cultural narratives because they don't work for you. It's okay that they don't work for you. Respect it and move on rather than telling the rest of us that "the truth" is your truth.
 

InvestigateTruth

Well-Known Member
That makes over 4000 gods redundant (and dont forget the 33 million hindu gods)

Saying to the people who worship/worshipped any of those gods that there god is really a different god, your god is the key to wars of religion.
We cannot assume every single tradition which is found in Hinduism is main
That makes over 4000 gods redundant (and dont forget the 33 million hindu gods)

Saying to the people who worship/worshipped any of those gods that there god is really a different god, your god is the key to wars of religion.

We cannot say with certainty the old sayings and traditions from thousands of years ago, are truly the preserved original teaching: we cannot be sure if 33 millions is true or not, to use it to refute the OP. But even 33 millions, can be just how everytime God revealed Himself in different locations, during millions of years. Everytime, He manifested himself differently, but with a different name.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Can they be from the same God, but were revealed or manifested in different ways, based on cultural differences

Each is suitable for a specific people at a different time.

I believe that to be utterly true. My favorite metaphor of this is the "Blind Men and the Elephant" where the Truth is perceived in a different and limited way by each.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Respect it and move on rather than telling the rest of us that "the truth" is your truth.

No kidding. But just wait another week, (or less) and there will be another 'debate' thread about it. I second the motion, "Respect it and move on."
 
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