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Be Careful Around Those Emotional Support Animals

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
You're right, ya know? I'm thinking there should be someone from the vicinity of Michigan...Michiganistan...
I'm pretty sure I've heard of someone ... but these days I get dreams and reality mixed up a lot. Maybe it was just that nightmare from the other night. I'm still getting them from last fall when Boss and I drove through there.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Pitbulls are usually, and this is not an excuse, usually very nice dogs. But like all dogs they can do Wrong at times. One is far more likely to get bitten by a Chihuahua, but since they have trouble breaking the skin they do not tend to make the news. When a pitbull goes bad the results are often worse than this.

The problem is that there is no proper control on what is a "service animal". If a person is going to be allowed to take there animals everywhere then The burden is on the state to make sure that there is a proper certification method so that a reasonable responsibility can be found when something does go wrong.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
The problem is that there is no proper control on what is a "service animal". If a person is going to be allowed to take there animals everywhere then The burden is on the state to make sure that there is a proper certification method so that a reasonable responsibility can be found when something does go wrong.

Agreed. I would add that the airport just asked questions but didn't require any evidence claims not even a demonstration. Check the right boxes and they do not care.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I suspect that airports & airlines never wanted to be so permissive.
But they feared lawyers representing the victim olympians.
A case like this provides a shield to make things more reasonable.

I've never had to take animals along with me on a plane trip. If I just had to take them with me, I would drive instead. But I guess it can cause some conniptions with the airlines.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
Short for.....
Crocky Bitey Swallowchild.

It's actually Crocky Balboa.
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Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
One problem is that all a person has to do to get “evidence” of their support animal is to answer a couple questions online and print a certificate. It’s out of control and ridiculous.
 

Duke_Leto

Active Member
There's a girl in my town who has an 'emotional support pony' that holds a sign around its neck saying 'Give me space'. What it's supposedly trained to do is stay still while she points to the sign. Only dogs are legally recognized as support animals, but it gets her attention, which is what she wants.
 

Duke_Leto

Active Member
Oh, a pitbull. Of course.

When news articles cite the breed of dog in an attack as a 'pit bull', it's a scare tactic. No such thing as a 'pit bull' is officially recognized. It's a common name for ten not-very-related breeds, and statistics of 'pit bull' attacks are artificially inflated by the fact that there are ten times as many of them -- also by the fact that irresponsible owners purchase them because they want a '******' dog, and often treat them terribly.

A friend of mine used to foster many breeds of dogs, including 'pit bulls'. I can personally guarantee they aren't inherently more dangerous than any other type of dog. Just like any other breed, their nature is 99% dependent on how they're treated and raised. They are not naturally aggressive; most dogs aren't, and virtually all the time, they attack because they're A) trained to, B) fearful, or C) perceive a threat. The fault for an attack always lies on the owner, not the dog.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
When news articles cite the breed of dog in an attack as a 'pit bull', it's a scare tactic. No such thing as a 'pit bull' is officially recognized. It's a common name for ten not-very-related breeds, and statistics of 'pit bull' attacks are artificially inflated by the fact that there are ten times as many of them -- also by the fact that irresponsible owners purchase them because they want a '******' dog, and often treat them terribly.

A friend of mine used to foster many breeds of dogs, including 'pit bulls'. I can personally guarantee they aren't inherently more dangerous than any other type of dog. Just like any other breed, their nature is 99% dependent on how they're treated and raised. They are not naturally aggressive; most dogs aren't, and virtually all the time, they attack because they're A) trained to, B) fearful, or C) perceive a threat. The fault for an attack always lies on the owner, not the dog.
I agree. I have only met nice pitbulls myself. The problem is that when things go wrong with pitbulls, they go terribly wrong. I blame the state for not having a proper standard. Too many people are simply allowed to slap a little doggie overcoat on their dog or on almost any other animal, and call it a "support animal".

If this is done if a person falsely claims a "support animal" not only should they be financially responsible. There should be criminal assault charges laid on them as well. Don't blame the animal, it is almost always the owner.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
When news articles cite the breed of dog in an attack as a 'pit bull', it's a scare tactic. No such thing as a 'pit bull' is officially recognized. It's a common name for ten not-very-related breeds, and statistics of 'pit bull' attacks are artificially inflated by the fact that there are ten times as many of them -- also by the fact that irresponsible owners purchase them because they want a '******' dog, and often treat them terribly.

A friend of mine used to foster many breeds of dogs, including 'pit bulls'. I can personally guarantee they aren't inherently more dangerous than any other type of dog. Just like any other breed, their nature is 99% dependent on how they're treated and raised. They are not naturally aggressive; most dogs aren't, and virtually all the time, they attack because they're A) trained to, B) fearful, or C) perceive a threat. The fault for an attack always lies on the owner, not the dog.
What you say makes perfect sense. But there is a problem that owners don't
always handle their dogs responsibly. And when it's a large or powerful breed
like a pitbull, there's danger...more than a mistreated small dog.
Some info....
Pit Bulls: What's Hype, What's Not

I once had a job of taking a dog census in our town. Going door to door
I met many dogs. I got bitten, but only by small dogs. No skin broken.
Would I be so lucky with a pitbull, doberman, or German shepard? Nah.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
What you say makes perfect sense. But there is a problem that owners don't
always handle their dogs responsibly. And when it's a large or powerful breed
like a pitbull, there's danger...more than a mistreated small dog.
Some info....
Pit Bulls: What's Hype, What's Not

I once had a job of taking a dog census in our town. Going door to door
I met many dogs. I got bitten, but only by small dogs. No skin broken.
Would I be so lucky with a pitbull, doberman, or German shepard? Nah.
I had a neighbor with a rottweiler as a pet. The only danger was it loving you to death.
 

Duke_Leto

Active Member
What you say makes perfect sense. But there is a problem that owners don't
always handle their dogs responsibly. And when it's a large or powerful breed
like a pitbull, there's danger...more than a mistreated small dog.
Some info....
Pit Bulls: What's Hype, What's Not

I once had a job of taking a dog census in our town. Going door to door
I met many dogs. I got bitten, but only by small dogs. No skin broken.
Would I be so lucky with a pitbull, doberman, or German shepard? Nah.

My family owns Great Danes. Yeah, the more powerful the dog, the more careful you have to be -- a 'small' bite from a dog that size can send you to the hospital. But having a small dog isn't an excuse for not training it -- small dogs really shouldn't be biting at people any more than large dogs.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
My family owns Great Danes. Yeah, the more powerful the dog, the more careful you have to be -- a 'small' bite from a dog that size can send you to the hospital. But having a small dog isn't an excuse for not training it -- small dogs really shouldn't be biting at people any more than large dogs.
I'm glad to no longer have that job.
 
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