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The wrath of God

InChrist

Free4ever
You said and I quote 'Do you see your own self-centeredness?'

I thought you were better than that
Oh, you are right, I did ask that question. I didn't intend it as a personal accusation against you. you are correct I don't know you. However, most people, if being honest, are aware that they they are not immune from self-centered thoughts or behavior.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
By killing his creations, and justifying it by "I made it, so I can destroy it"? o_O And so far he's done a marvelous job of eliminating evil.
For one thing, the scriptures repeatedly state that God is fair, merciful, righteous, holy, good, loving, compassionate, and patient so in light of His character any killing would have to line up with these qualities and perfect justice. Secondly, the scriptures never indicate that God plan is eliminating evil from this present world.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
How do you explain all the millions of people who've lived good, moral lives throughout human history without any knowledge of your God and savior? What are they to be saved from? Are they saved? Or are they destined for hell?
I'd say that the God who created heaven and earth is the One who defines "good and moral", not you, me, or any finite human and this God knows how to offer salvation to any who fall short of His perfect goodness and morality throughout human history wherever they may have been at in their understanding and knowledge.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Oh, you are right, I did ask that question. I didn't intend it as a personal accusation against you. you are correct I don't know you. However, most people, if being honest, are aware that they they are not immune from self-centered thoughts or behavior.

I know i am right and i am not most people, and i am honest
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
I'd say that the God who created heaven and earth is the One who defines "good and moral", not you, me, or any finite human and this God knows how to offer salvation to any who fall short of His perfect goodness and morality throughout human history wherever they may have been at in their understanding and knowledge.

What a load of crap! Lol You keep moving the goal post.
 

Remté

Active Member
How do you explain all the millions of people who've lived good, moral lives throughout human history without any knowledge of your God and savior? What are they to be saved from? Are they saved? Or are they destined for hell?
Why do you presume they have no knowledge? If they truly have no knowledge they cannot even testify they have no knowledge.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
For one thing, the scriptures repeatedly state that God is fair, merciful, righteous, holy, good, loving, compassionate, and patient so in light of His character any killing would have to line up with these qualities and perfect justice. Secondly, the scriptures never indicate that God plan is eliminating evil from this present world.

So God says that he is holy, good, king, loving, compassionate and patient.. and he's not going to eliminate evil but he will administer perfect justice to you.

What church do you attend?
 

Remté

Active Member
So God says that he is holy, good, king, loving, compassionate and patient.. and he's not going to eliminate evil but he will administer perfect justice to you.

What church do you attend?
Does it matter? Clearly he believes in the Abrahamic God.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Are you saying you never have a selfish thought or ever behave in any self-centered way?

What is selfish? Wanting only the best for my kids or wanting to eat something nice?

No need for selfish thoughts, just get on with life
 
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