Square Pegs, Round Holes

[Maximilian]

Ego-centric does not equal selfish...All kids under a certain age are ego-centric yet I've seen 2 and 3 year olds try to cheer each other up.

Egocentric-


: a person who is egocentric : someone who is limited in outlook or concern to his or her own activities or needs : a self-centered person

"Almost all the shows feature egocentrics who are self-aware enough to realize that they are egocentric, and who have the redeeming feature of generally being very good at what they do."— Susan Dominus

"As for the man, the book depicts him as a monster of selfishness, a disloyal exploiter of friends, an egocentric who feeds on perversity …"— Hubert Saal

 

[Maximilian]

Why call it "exaltation"?
That suggests to me religious adulation.
But that would be at odds with a non-intuitive
approach to learning about others.

Because it's egoist in nature.

 

[VoidCat]

Egocentric-


: a person who is egocentric : someone who is limited in outlook or concern to his or her own activities or needs : a self-centered person

"Almost all the shows feature egocentrics who are self-aware enough to realize that they are egocentric, and who have the redeeming feature of generally being very good at what they do."— Susan Dominus

"As for the man, the book depicts him as a monster of selfishness, a disloyal exploiter of friends, an egocentric who feeds on perversity …"— Hubert Saal

Different definition in psychology.to quote Egocentrism | psychology: Egocentrism, in psychology, the cognitive shortcomings that underlie the failure, in both childrenand adults, to recognize the idiosyncratic nature of one’s knowledge or the subjective nature of one’s perceptions. Such failures describe children at play who cover their eyes and joyfully exclaim to their parents, “You can’t see me!” Likewise, they describe adult physicians who provide their patients with medical diagnoses that only another doctor could understand.

 

[VoidCat]

This does not mean they are selfish.They could still care for others.

 

[Revoltingest]

Because it's egoist in nature.

A strange term that is.
What does it mean?

 

[Maximilian]

A strange term that is.
What does it mean?

LMGTFY

 

[james dixon]

This does not mean they are selfish.They could still care for others.

Trump only cares for himself and none other

In my view at least
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[james dixon]

I got a “your being scanned” warning so I must go—

bye

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[viole]

Fascinatingly, while researching the genetic makeup of over a thousand individuals of diverse ages as well as backgrounds scientists have confirmed that we have all inherited a variety of biological predispositions for spirituality. Put simply, we're hardwired for God: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go...

With that being said, individuals with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) are born with neurological deficits such that absolutely no volume of evidence can help these comprehend that which comes so naturally to Neurotypical (NT) individuals, compassion and spirituality.

It's akin to a person born blind attempting to enjoy the majesty of an exquisite painting or one whose never heard sounds their entire life trying to be moved by a sublime aria.


Source: https://www.researchgate.ne...

Accordingly, NTs who love God show these compassion and let them be. After all, it's not their fault.

I think we have been knowing for quite a while that our predisposition to attribute things to an agency, even when there is none, was a useful evolutionary adaptation.

There are good reasons to postulate that this sort of predisposition for delusions ( believe in agencies controlling things even when there is none) is more helpful towards survival than a more skeptic attitude. And that is why it has been naturally selected, probably.

So, it is not surprising that humans have such a predisposition, in general. What would be surprising would be if they all had the same predisposition to believe the same god. But this is obviously not the case.

Therefore, such a trait has cleary only naturalisic origins.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Revoltingest]

LMGTFY

That's a very useful way to get info.
But having seen the definition before (& finding complexities in the
breadth of its application), I wondered if you has some personal usage.
As I see things, everyone is an egoist (whether they know it or not).

 

[Maximilian]

I think we have been knowing for quite a while that our predisposition to attribute things to an agency, even when there is none, was a useful evolutionary adaptation.

There are good reasons to postulate that this sort of predisposition for delusions ( believe in agencies controlling things even when there is none) is more helpful towards survival than a more skeptic attitude. And that is why it has been naturally selected, probably.

So, it is not surprising that humans have such a predisposition, in general. What would be surprising would be if they all had the same predisposition to believe the same god. But this is obviously not the case.

Therefore, such a trait has cleary only naturalisic origins.

Ciao

- viole

Delusion you say? Based on what do you dare claim all of us theists are suffering from "a persistent false psychotic belief regarding persons outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary?" Where is your proof that our Creator does not nor cannot exist?

 

[Maximilian]

That's a very useful way to get info.
But having seen the definition before (& finding complexities in the
breadth of its application), I wondered if you has some personal usage.
As I see things, everyone is an egoist (whether they know it or not).

It is a question of degree. Self-care is necessary but when a person makes themselves the center of their existence to the detriment of everything and everyone else disaster inevitably follows . . .

 

[viole]

Delusion you say? Based on what do you dare claim all of us theists are suffering from "a persistent false psychotic belief regarding persons outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary?" Where is your proof that our Creator does not nor cannot exist?

Well, that is not what I meant. I addressed the general fact that humans rend to attribute agencies to most things, even if they do not exist.
A useful tendency to delusions, so to speak.

For instance, they might attribute a noise coming from the forest to a predator, even if it is only the wind. Which is better than to have the inverse belief. And that is why it is very plausible that evolution selected that trait. Since our brains have a naturalistic origin, it is to be expected that they are more tuned for survival rather than truth.

But I have a question. Do you think that polyteists, or people who believe believed in a god completely different from yours, are not deluded?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Maximilian]

Do you think that polyteists, or people who believe believed in a god completely different from yours, are not deluded?

Why would I think they're suffering from a severe psychological disorder? Why can't they just be mistaken, uninformed or misinformed?

 

[viole]

Why would I think they're suffering from a severe psychological disorder? Why can't they just be mistaken, uninformed or misinformed?

With misinformed, mistaken, do you mean that they believe that despite evidence of the contrary?

Logically there is no other way. If they are not deluded then, according to your definition, there is no evidence against what they believe. Because if there were, they would be deluded.

Correct?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Maximilian]

With misinformed, mistaken, do you mean that they believe that despite evidence of the contrary?

Logically there is no other way. If they are not deluded then, according to your definition, there is no evidence against what they believe. Because if there were, they would be deluded.

Correct?

Ciao

- viole

That or they're drawing conclusions based on incomplete or simply erroneous information.

 

[viole]

That or they're drawing conclusions based on incomplete or simply erroneous information.

Maybe, it is you who is drawing conclusion based on incomplete or simply erroneius information.

Can you provide evidence that it is not the case?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Shantanu]

Fascinatingly, while researching the genetic makeup of over a thousand individuals of diverse ages as well as backgrounds scientists have confirmed that we have all inherited a variety of biological predispositions for spirituality. Put simply, we're hardwired for God: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go...

With that being said, individuals with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) are born with neurological deficits such that absolutely no volume of evidence can help these comprehend that which comes so naturally to Neurotypical (NT) individuals, compassion and spirituality.

It's akin to a person born blind attempting to enjoy the majesty of an exquisite painting or one whose never heard sounds their entire life trying to be moved by a sublime aria.


Source: https://www.researchgate.ne...

Accordingly, NTs who love God show these compassion and let them be. After all, it's not their fault.

God lives with us to guide us in our lives if we follow dharma, so of course some people are hardwired for God and cannot let go.

 

[shunyadragon]

Why would I think they're suffering from a severe psychological disorder? Why can't they just be mistaken, uninformed or misinformed?

As you may be since we're all fallible humans.

 

[Shantanu]

As you may be since were all fallible humans.

I am infallible because I got to know what God wants of me.