That is so naive. Should a company automatically be abolished if a handful of employees misbehave?
If that company’s management protects and de-facto creates the conditions for raping more and more children, what would you do with it?
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- viole
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That is so naive. Should a company automatically be abolished if a handful of employees misbehave?
Go after the people who did it and not punish all who work for the company, imo.If that company’s management protects and de-facto create the conditions for raping more and more children, what would you do with it?
Catholics hate this more than you do.
Why are you in essence blaming the entire Church for this? Isn't it morally more acceptable to blame those who actually did it? And maybe you can name a large organization that doesn't have problems with its own personnel at times?If they did, i doubt they can stay Catholics. I could not imagine being associated to a criminal organization of that kind, busy in protecting and de facto enabling the rape of more and more children.
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- viole
Why are you in essence blaming the entire Church for this? Isn't it morally more acceptable to blame those who actually did it? And maybe you can name a large organization that doesn't have problems with its own personnel at times?
That is simply is not at all true as the Church has very much been working on this, including at the Vatican conference late this last week.Becuse you entire church is doing nothing about it. Nothing.
If they did, i doubt they can stay Catholics. I could not imagine being associated to a criminal organization of that kind, destroying evidence and being busy in protecting perps and de facto enabling the rape of more and more children.
And I have a theory why the current pope was so soft about it.
Ciao
- viole
That is simply is not at all true as the Church has very much been working on this, including at the Vatican conference late this last week.
Every single weekend my church deals with this at the pulpit and in our church paper, asking people to come forth to the local police if they or someone they know has been or is being sexually assaulted. The number of incidents nationally have sharply dropped off as several secular studies have shown.
When you fabricate such untruths and then charge others with acting immorally, you undermine yourself.
And? That was when the current pope invoked Satan.
So, cool. What else could they do. Too late, I am afraid. I would have preferred if that came from the inside, first
What I fabricate was on all news in Europe yesterday. With the possible exception of Radio Maria.
But if you like to still be associated to that organization, be my guest. I myself just hope that this will increase the probability to see the last stone from the last church falling on the head of the last priest.
And see such institutions being tossed to where they belong. The trash bean of history.
Ciao
- viole
If they did, i doubt they can stay Catholics. I could not imagine being associated to a criminal organization of that kind, destroying evidence and being busy in protecting perps and de facto enabling the rape of more and more children.
And I have a theory why the current pope was so soft about it.
Ciao
- viole
And he blamed the pedophile priests and the bishops who just moved them around. How could you have missed that-- unless it just didn't fit into your "agenda".And? That was when the current pope invoked Satan.
Which shows you lied when you posted this: "Becuse you entire church is doing nothing about it" in your post #125.What I fabricate was on all news in Europe yesterday. With the possible exception of Radio Maria.
So, you're into mass punishment. So, if you have four children and two misbehave, you'll punish all four. Got it.But if you like to still be associated to that organization, be my guest. I myself just hope that this will increase the probability to see the last stone from the last church falling on the head of the last priest.
Your dishonesty and willingness to punish innocent people is what really belongs in the "trash". What you have proposed is no more "ethical" than what the pedophile priests did as mass punishment that includes innocent people is never ethical.And see such institutions being tossed to where they belong. The trash bean of history.
If I were you, I wouldn't call her dishonest.And he blamed the pedophile priests and the bishops who just moved them around. How could you have missed that-- unless it just didn't fit into your "agenda".
Which shows you lied when you posted this: "Becuse you entire church is doing nothing about it" in your post #125.
So, you're into mass punishment. So, if you have four children and two misbehave, you'll punish all four. Got it.
Your dishonesty and willingness to punish innocent people is what really belongs in the "trash". What you have proposed is no more "ethical" than what the pedophile priests did as mass punishment that includes innocent people is never ethical.
And he blamed the pedophile priests and the bishops who just moved them around. How could you have missed that-- unless it just didn't fit into your "agenda".
Which shows you lied when you posted this: "Becuse you entire church is doing nothing about it" in your post #125.
So, you're into mass punishment. So, if you have four children and two misbehave, you'll punish all four. Got it.
Your dishonesty and willingness to punish innocent people is what really belongs in the "trash". What you have proposed is no more "ethical" than what the pedophile priests did as mass punishment that includes innocent people is never ethical.
This theme is common within the secular world; where one mistake erases every good thing one has ever done.
...It's ungodly, unholy, and unfair in every way. I reject it to the fullest!
Hitler also gave work to many Germans and built nice highways. That didi not prevent him from being the leader of a chriminal organization.
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- viole
Depending upon one's politics, that's a questionable claim.With the CC, the rights far outnumber the wrongs.
Again, another clearly obvious lie on your part, plus you have again contradicted even what you posted earlier.Since that organization is not proposing nothing to correct the situation,
Because I don't believe in mass punishment that includes innocent people as you have advocated. What you are proposing is all too similar to what the NAZI's and Stalinist's did, namely to punish a whole group to send a "message" to others. A moral person does not propose such actions that intentionally punishes those that are innocent.I mean, how can you defend that organization of protectors of kids rapists? That is really mind boggling.
Again, another clearly obvious lie on your part, plus you have again contradicted even what you posted earlier.
I've mentioned both what the Pope has been doing at the conference, plus there was much that he and the bishops said and have put into place before the conference to address this problem, and then I also told you what was being done at our local and archdiocese level.
It's both delusional and pathetic that you somehow think you're operating on some sort of moral high-ground when you are so willing to punish the innocent. Now, whether what the Church is doing will be enough, only time will tell-- but it is doing things contrary to your repeated lies
Because I don't believe in mass punishment that includes innocent people as you have advocated. What you are proposing is all too similar to what the NAZI's and Stalinist's did, namely to punish a whole group to send a "message" to others. A moral person does not propose such actions that intentionally punishes those that are innocent.
Anyhow, post back what you want but what you have been proposing is simply as immoral as what the pedophile priests and the bishops who just moved them around did. But at least the Church has been willing to admit there's a problem and have taken steps to try and deal with them. You, otoh, just double and triple down on your willingness to punish the innocent, which I believe most people would consider a moral low-ground. One cannot try to help eliminate immorality if they propose that which is immoral themselves.
'nuff
One mistake? No, one mistake is some rando Cardinal is caught smoking dope or a nun is caught secretly getting drunk off communion wine or something.This theme is common within the secular world; where one mistake erases every good thing one has ever done.
...It's ungodly, unholy, and unfair in every way. I reject it to the fullest!