Science is a false God

[Maximilian]

Is not envy the driver of much of capitalism?

Indeed it is which is why, as the era of Vanderbilt, Rockefeller, Carnegie, Morgan, Ford, Hearst, Hughes and Doheny proved, pure Capitalism is evil.

 

[Maximilian]

As for pride, what's wrong with ambition anyway?

When Jesus is speaking of pride he's referring to egotism, arrogance, haughtiness, excessive self-esteem; an irrational sense of superiority with respect to one’s abilities, attractiveness, riches, status, etcetera; disdainful conduct or treatment; insolence or arrogance of mindset; haughty display.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/bc/r1/lp-e/1200003552/0/0
See Isaiah 9:9; Proverbs 8:13; 1 Corinthians 1:29; Proverbs 16:18; Proverbs 15:25; Leviticus 26:18, 19; 2 Chronicles 26:16; Isaiah 13:19; Jeremiah 13:9; Ezekiel 30:6, 18; 32:12; Daniel 5:22, 23, 30.

 

[blü 2]

First, stop all this scattershot. I've already asked you once, but from now on put all your questions into a single post or go home.

How does that passage prove God is ok with infanticide as well as abortion?

He's saying he's going to kill the children and rip open the pregnant women because they've found another god ─ you rather astonish me that you can't see that for yourself, since that's what the words say.

So you are pro-baby murder . . . got it . . .

And you equate women with breeding cows ... got it.

Why should God tolerate the evil?

Wake up! Here are people going about their business, and suddenly an army appears, ordained by your god, kills them and takes their land, and the livelihood of any survivors. That seems like a grand idea to you? An ideal of justice and decency? I disagree.

Exactly how are these examples of mass rapes mandated by God?

You can't read your bible? You can but you didn't notice that God has ordained all this and [he] rewards the malefactors?

Did Isaac die?

Wrong question. Did Isaac think Yahweh was joking? Did he think that no civilized being would order such a thing and send the angel away? No, he knew this god better than that, so he prepared to kill Isaac. Human sacrifice was part of the landscape.

Did Jephthah's daughter die?

Yes. The story is very explicit ─

30 And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD, and said, “If thou wilt give the Ammonites into my hand, 31 then whoever comes forth from the doors of my house to meet me, when I return victorious from the Ammonites, shall be the LORD’s, and I will offer him up for a burnt offering.”​

followed by

39 And at the end of two months, she returned to her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had made.​

Are you dyslexic?

How is this an example of sacrifices made to Jehovah God?

Oh dear, you are dyslexic. Okay, I'll spell it out yet again.

1 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David sought the face of the LORD. And the LORD said, “There is bloodguilt on Saul and on his house, because he put the Gib’eonites to death.”​

and so on, so he consults the Gibeonites, they want seven sons of Saul, he gives them seven sons of Saul, they impale them 'before the Lord' and

14 [...] And after that God heeded supplications for the land.​

And as you've read, the supplications were for the lifting of the famine. God was appeased by the killing of seven innocent people. It's all there in the text.

Did Jonah die?

Did Jonah think God was bluffing? The case is parallel to Abraham's.

On what objective moral basis do you dare condemn Jesus's actions as immoral? Who made you God Almighty?

I didn't condemn Jesus. I condemned Yahweh for carrying out a gratuitous killing, at least according to the story.

And you need to consider that what Yahweh wanted to achieve, [he] could have achieved with one snap of those omnipotent fingers. Assuming an omnipotent god (as [his] billing repeatedly states) and a real Jesus (which is an open question), all this 'kill my son' business is a meaningless charade.

You don't understand what murder is? Are you a psychopath?

So give me a reasoned response to all those questions I showed you that arise from a naive concept of 'murder'. Then we can talk more.

After creating the first human pair, our Almighty Creator dictated that sexual relations between a man and a woman can only be within the bonds of matrimony.

Where does Genesis say that? Adam and Eve were never married. Not to mention Solomon and his harem, and the story says he was one of his god's favorites.

Any other sexual activity outside this arrangement is evil.

Why? Consenting adults, informed consent, contraception (or agreed conception), relationship conducted honestly and openly ─ what exactly is the problem?

All liars, then, follow in Satan's footsteps.

You don't read your bible, do you ─

2 Chronicles 18:22 Now therefore, behold, the Lord has put a lying spirit in the mouth of these your prophets; the Lord has spoken evil concerning you.

Jeremiah 4:10 ... “Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast utterly deceived this people and Jerusalem ...”

Jeremiah 20:7 O Lord, thou hast deceived me, / and I was deceived;

Ezekiel 14:9 And if the prophet be deceived and speak a word, I, the Lord, have deceived that prophet

2 Thessalonians 2:11 Therefore God sends upon them a strong delusion, to make them believe what is false.​

You might also consider whether dogmatism is a sin.

And remember ─ all your replies in the one post this time.

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[sooda]

First, stop all this scattershot. I've already asked you once, but from now on put all your questions into a single post or go home.

He's saying he's going to kill the children and rip open the pregnant women because they've found another god ─ you rather astonish me that you can't see that for yourself, since that's what the words say.
And you equate women with breeding cows ... got it.
Wake up! Here are people going about their business, and suddenly an army appears, ordained by your god, kills them and takes their land, and the livelihood of any survivors. That seems like a grand idea to you? An ideal of justice and decency? I disagree.
You can't read your bible? You can but you didn't notice that God has ordained all this and [he] rewards the malefactors?
Wrong question. Did Isaac think Yahweh was joking? Did he think that no civilized being would order such a thing and send the angel away? No, he knew this god better than that, so he prepared to kill Isaac. Human sacrifice was part of the landscape.
Yes. The story is very explicit ─

30 And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD, and said, “If thou wilt give the Ammonites into my hand, 31 then whoever comes forth from the doors of my house to meet me, when I return victorious from the Ammonites, shall be the LORD’s, and I will offer him up for a burnt offering.”​

followed by

39 And at the end of two months, she returned to her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had made.​

Are you dyslexic?
Oh dear, you are dyslexic. Okay, I'll spell it out yet again.

1 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David sought the face of the LORD. And the LORD said, “There is bloodguilt on Saul and on his house, because he put the Gib’eonites to death.”​

and so on, so he consults the Gibeonites, they want seven sons of Saul, he gives them seven sons of Saul, they impale them 'before the Lord' and

14 [...] And after that God heeded supplications for the land.​

And as you've read, the supplications were for the lifting of the famine. God was appeased by the killing of seven innocent people. It's all there in the text.
Did Jonah think God was bluffing? The case is parallel to Abraham's.
I didn't condemn Jesus. I condemned Yahweh for carrying out a gratuitous murder, at least according to the story.

And you need to consider that what Yahweh wanted to achieve, [he] could have achieved with one snap of those omnipotent fingers. Assuming an omnipotent god (as [his] billing repeatedly states) and a real Jesus (which is an open question), all this 'kill my son' business is a meaningless charade.
So give me a reasoned response to all those questions I showed you that arise from a naive concept of 'murder'. Then we can talk more.
Where does Genesis say that? Adam and Eve were never married.
Why? Consenting adults, informed consent, contraception (or agreed conception), relationship conducted honestly and openly ─ what exactly is the problem?
You don't read your bible, do you ─

2 Chronicles 18:22 Now therefore, behold, the Lord has put a lying spirit in the mouth of these your prophets; the Lord has spoken evil concerning you.

Jeremiah 4:10 ... “Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast utterly deceived this people and Jerusalem ...”

Jeremiah 20:7 O Lord, thou hast deceived me, / and I was deceived;

Ezekiel 14:9 And if the prophet be deceived and speak a word, I, the Lord, have deceived that prophet

2 Thessalonians 2:11 Therefore God sends upon them a strong delusion, to make them believe what is false.​

You might also consider whether dogmatism is a sin.

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You read AND think.. That's rare.

 

[Maximilian]

He's saying he's going to kill the children and rip open the pregnant women

He's going to do all that?

 

[Remté]

After creating the first human pair, our Almighty Creator dictated that sexual relations between a man and a woman can only be within the bonds of matrimony. Any other sexual activity outside this arrangement is evil. And countless children, women and men have suffered tremendously from the practice of this evil . . .

Even greater amount of them all suffer because of matrimony.

 

[Maximilian]

Here are people going about their business, and suddenly an army appears, ordained by your god, kills them and takes their land, and the livelihood of any survivors.

You seem to believe the Canaanites didn't deserve to suffer the consequence of their evil. Do you not believe in personal responsibility?

 

[Maximilian]

Even greater amount of them all suffer because of matrimony.

Where is your evidence?

 

[Remté]

Where is your evidence?

In divorce statistics.

 

[blü 2]

You read AND think.. That's rare.

Kind of you to say so.

 

[Maximilian]

And you equate women with breeding cows ... got it.

Here, let me fix your Strawman-

"And you equate deem pregnant women with breeding cows to be mothers ... got it."

Glad I could help

 

[Maximilian]

In divorce statistics.

What metrics did you use in your in-depth statistical analysis to quantify, compare and contrast their level of suffering with that of victims of rape, paedophilia or adultery?

 

[Maximilian]

You can't read your bible? You can but you didn't notice that God has ordained all this and [he] rewards the malefactors?

You're still not making any sense. How does this answer my simple query?

 

[Maximilian]

Yes. The story is very explicit ─
30 And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD, and said, “If thou wilt give the Ammonites into my hand, 31 then whoever comes forth from the doors of my house to meet me, when I return victorious from the Ammonites, shall be the LORD’s, and I will offer him up for a burnt offering.”followed by
39 And at the end of two months, she returned to her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had made.Are you dyslexic?

Keep reading:

"From year to year, the young women of Israel would go to give commendation to the daughter of Jephʹthah the Gilʹe·ad·ite four days in the year." -Judges 11:40

How could these visit with her year after year to praise her if she was dead?

 

[Maximilian]

Human sacrifice was part of the landscape.

If that's actually true, why didn't Isaac die?

 

[blü 2]

You're still not making any sense. How does this answer my simple query?

Go back and read the ******* text, for goodness' sake. Why do I have to explain to you what I've already given to you?

And I take it that's all the questions you have, in accordance with the no scattershot rule.

So I'm glad you've understood and accepted the rest.

 

[Maximilian]

God was appeased by the killing of seven innocent people.

Innocent? Why was there bloodguilt, then, on Saul's house?

 

[Maximilian]

Go back and read the ******* text, for goodness' sake.

I have, hence why your claims don't make any sense.

 

[Maximilian]

Did Jonah think God was bluffing?

Again, how does this answer my pointed query?

 

[Maximilian]

So give me a reasoned response to all those questions I showed you that arise from a naive concept of 'murder'.

Once again, how does this answer my question?


Unless, of course, this latest dodge is because you are in fact a psychopath . . .