Punishment for adultery

[Thief]

You're saying your local legislature doesn't start its meetings with prayers for guidance?

Or you're saying the Almighty just doesn't take them seriously?

apparently the State decided the law was.....outdated

and I suspect God and heaven think of manmade law as a bad joke

 

[Vinayaka]

Not if adequate precautions are taken. Or are you assuming those on open relationships dont take advise.

Interestingly. The highests rates of STIs in ametica are found in bible belt states so by your logic either christians have more open relationships or they ignore advice and rely on god to protect them from the dreaded clap

As well as teen pregnancy ...

Teen Pregnancy Rates By State

 

[Polymath257]

As well as teen pregnancy ...

Teen Pregnancy Rates By State

Funny how refusing to talk openly about sexuality means people get STDs and get pregnant as teens. Who would have thought it so?

 

[ChristineM]

As well as teen pregnancy ...

Teen Pregnancy Rates By State

Yup, and divorce rates. Not at all what you would expect listening to bible belt Christians

Only a meme but it is backed up statistically.

 

[Vinayaka]

Fake news. Fake news.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Your opinion, not the opinion of the actual people involved.

We all have a lot to learn and opinions change.

What is good for humanity as a whole also needs to be found, our unity is urgent.

Having been born in the age where these opinions were being formulated, one can understand their motivation. Put as much candy on the motive as anybody wants, in the end they are being self satisfying.

It takes work and commitment to stay a lifetime with one partner and therin is the bounty, to acheive this and build a strong family unit, the foundation if a strong communities.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

As i, and others have said from the beginning. Consensual agreement is not cheating.

Agreed.

It is worth considering that there are bigger issues at play here though. The structure of a strong lasting humanity.

Thus it is time for the world to look beyond ones own self and satisfaction.

Regards Tony

 

[Vinayaka]

Yup, and divorce rates. Not at all what you would expect listening to bible belt Christians

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Only a meme but it is backed up statistically.

So those who preach and yell against divorce get divorced more? Ya think they're at all capable of seeing the irony?

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Yup, and divorce rates. Not at all what you would expect listening to bible belt Christians

So those who preach and yell against divorce get divorced more? Ya think they're at all capable of seeing the irony?

The point you raised was warned against and it supports that the time of change promised in the Bible is upon us.

2 Timothy 3:1-5 "But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people."

The first person we can change is our own self, I see none of us are perfect.

Regards Tony

 

[ChristineM]

We all have a lot to learn and opinions change.

What is good for humanity as a whole also needs to be found, our unity is urgent.

Having been born in the age where these opinions were being formulated, one can understand their motivation. Put as much candy on the motive as anybody wants, in the end they are being self satisfying.

It takes work and commitment to stay a lifetime with one partner and therin is the bounty, to acheive this and build a strong family unit, the foundation if a strong communities.

Regards Tony

No you are so wrong, they are sharing satisfaction. But it seems that knowledge is wasted on you, you have your preconceived ideas of what you (apparently) know nothing about and those ideas will not be changed by information.

And yet christianity has the highest divorce rate, strong family units i guess.

 

[ChristineM]

The point you raised was warned against and it supports that the time of change promised in the Bible is upon us.

2 Timothy 3:1-5 "But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people."

The first person we can change is our own self, I see none of us are perfect.

Regards Tony

Yup, Christianity is really taking heed of the biblical warning eh

 

[ChristineM]

So those who preach and yell against divorce get divorced more? Ya think they're at all capable of seeing the irony?

It seems not

 

[Vinayaka]

The point you raised was warned against and it supports that the time of change promised in the Bible is upon us.

2 Timothy 3:1-5 "But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people."

I'm not a Christian, but it doesn't take much to observe that the very same people who recite such quotes are often the most guilty. But they're so proud, arrogant, and abusive they'd never see it. Swollen with conceit.

Yes, I do avoid such people. (in real life)

 

[TransmutingSoul]

No you are so wrong, they are sharing satisfaction. But it seems that knowledge is wasted on you, you have your preconceived ideas of what you (apparently) know nothing about and those ideas will not be changed by information.

And yet christianity has the highest divorce rate, strong family units i guess.

My ideas are not preconceived.

I was born and lived in the foundation years of free love and thought what a great idea and lived life as such.

My opinions changed when I found there was alternate understandings.

Regards Tony

 

[ChristineM]

Agreed.

It is worth considering that there are bigger issues at play here though. The structure of a strong lasting humanity.

Thus it is time for the world to look beyond ones own self and satisfaction.

Regards Tony

Are you saying open relationships are not strong and lasting? It seems the facts dont agree

You have had it your way for 2000 years and look at the mess we are in. Is it not time to try other ideas?

 

[TransmutingSoul]

I'm not a Christian, but it doesn't take much to observe that the very same people who recite such quotes are often the most guilty. But they're so proud, arrogant, and abusive they'd never see it. Swollen with conceit.

Yes, I do avoid such people. (in real life)

We all have our faults.

Regards Tony

 

[QuestioningMind]

Sorry in quoting your post, I was replying to the comment I quoted above yours.

But to answer your question....there should be something done. Many times, just the threat of punishment will restrain a person.

Example: speed limit signs, along with the accompanied threat of fines, have worked for many years! (They've kept me from outright speeding! How 'bout you?)

Really, though, don't courts still favor, to some degree, the innocent mate in a divorce arising from adultery? It doesn't seem to be working too well. Probably more serious measures should be threatened. How about public flogging?

Maybe that threat would be enough!

Is it so hard to keep one's pants zipped up?

Speed limit signs and fines for speeding make sense, because everyone is sharing the same roads and the speed that you drive effects the rest of society that is also using the roads. Society as a whole has an interest in making sure we all drive at safe speeds.

Adultery on the other hand only effects those involved in the marriage. IF something should be done, it's up to the people involved to decide what that something is. Since marriage is a legal contract between the people involved the appropriate place to settle such issues is in the courts. It's really none of the rest of society's business.

 

[Vinayaka]

It seems not

Bahai divorce rate is right up there, maybe higher than the Christian fundies, at least in the US. There are tons of problems. Dr. Cole tried to point them out, but he just got himself booted, and declared an enemy. So much for fair play, eh?

 

[ChristineM]

My ideas are not preconceived.

I was born and lived in the foundation years of free love and thought what a great idea and lived life as such.

My opinions changed when I found there was alternate understandings.

Regards Tony

See my above post

So you were fine with "free love" when you liked it but believe no one should have it now you dont like it. Fair enougj

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Are you saying open relationships are not strong and lasting? It seems the facts dont agree

You have had it your way for 2000 years and look at the mess we are in. Is it not time to try other ideas?

That is what a Baha'i does. Tries other ideas based on what is considerd great advice for this age we live in.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

See my above post

So you were fine with "free love" when you liked it but believe no one should have it now you dont like it. Fair enougj

Opinions change. They can change in an instance or it can take years.

Regards Tony