Gnostic wrote………In the gospel of Matthew, its tree started with Abraham, but in the Luke gospel, it goes alway back to Adam and to God. Plus, both trees of Joseph, showed that Joseph have different fathers, with 2 different lines Joseph to David, and those lines with Matthew’s line having go back 27 generations, while Luke’s genealogy has 42 generations.
The Anointed……..I realise that being a atheist, you are not conversant with the scriptures that in your ignorance you attack, but the genealogy of Joseph the son of Jacob from the tribe of Judah, as seen in Matthew, is not the genealogy of Jesus, but of Joseph the son of Jacob, who married the already pregnant Mary, thereby becoming the step father of Jesus, having no genetic connection to the child at all.
The genealogy as recorded in Luke, is that of Joseph the son of Heli [Alexander Helios III] from the tribe of Levi. Two different men by the name Joseph, which name was as common in those days as it is today.
Gnostic wrote………Mary’s father was never mentioned. And the first time, Christians given the Mary-Heli connection was the early 4th century Eusebius. Did Eusebius have any literary record that explicitly says Heli was really Mary’s father, not Joseph’s father?
The answer to that is, a “No”. Eusebius used fabricated excuses, not any lost record of Mary’s line to David.
The Anointed……….It was Luke the companion of Paul, who in the 1st century before the sack of Jerusalem and the destruction of Herod’s temple by the Romans, wrote that Heli was definitely the father of Joseph ben Heli, the biological father of Jesus.
Alexander Helios or Heli, was a descendant of Nathan the prophet, the son of Bathsheba from the tribe of Levi, who was adopted by King David, and Heli had a son by the name Joseph, and Heli later married Hanna the sister of Elizabeth the mother of John the Baptist, and aunty of Mary, and Heli is the father to both Joseph and Mary by two different women.
Gnostic wrote………Beside that, Mary in the gospel of Luke, made it very explicit that she was related to Elizabeth (Luke 1:36), the mother of John the Baptist, and that Elizabeth was a descendant of Aaron (1:5).
Which would mean Mary was most likely a descendant of Aaron too, not to David or to Judah. Joseph has been referred to as “son of David”, but Mary was never called “daughter of David”. And the story of travel to Bethlehem, stated that Joseph was of the line of David, not Mary.
The Anointed…….. Hanna, the mother of Mary, was the daughter of Yehoshua/Jesus III, the Levite, who was the high priest in Jerusalem from 36 to 23 BC and is believed to have been murdered at the orders of Herod the Great.
Jehoshua the high priest in Jerusalem and his wife Phanuel of the tribe of Asher, were the parents of Hanna, the sister of Elizabeth, who gave birth to John the Baptist at a very advanced age, and Hanna/Anna, was the aged grandmother of Jesus.
Gnostic wrote………As I said, the whole Mary being daughter of Heli was made up, with Eusebius first coming up with this idea, but he has nothing to verify his claim about Mary’s alleged line, let alone the identity of her parent.
The Anointed……. From “The Ancestors of Jesus in First and Second Century Judea BCE”
By Robert Mock M.D.
December 2007.
Book One
Chapter Two we learn that this young maiden, Miriam, was a child of sorrow. Her father, Heli, a Davidic and Hasmonean prince, called Alexander Helios III, was apparently executed, in the world where many Davidian aspirants, as the “young lions of Judah”, were eliminated by the cruel and tyrannical King Herod the Great., Etc.
A son of the famous Boethus family of seven sons, Mary’s great-great-great grandfather, arrived into Jewish history as one of the giants of the priests of the House of Zadok. The High Priest Hananeel (Ananelus) the Egyptian/Jew was privileged to sacrifice one of the
nine red heifers before the temple of Herod was destroyed in 70 AD.
The great grandfather of the biblical Jesus was Yehoshua/Jesus III, who was the high priest in Jerusalem from 36 to 23 BC and is believed to have been murdered at the orders of Herod the Great. The sonless Yehoshua, had three daughters, Joanna, Elizabeth and Anna/Hanna.
Knowing that his Zadokian lineage would become extinct unless his daughters were placed with future husbands according to the Torah, he married them off to chosen husbands.
Joanna, was betrothed to Joachim from the non-royal genetic lineage of David. The second daughter of Yehoshua III, was Elizabeth. This was the Elizabeth, who, at a very advanced age was to become the mother of John the Baptist in 7 BC, a year before the birth of Jesus and some 16 years after the death of her father in 23 BC, and she was betrothed to a Levite priest by the name Zacharias of the priestly course of Abijah.
The young Davidian prince Heli, [Alexander Helios III] was chosen by Yehoshua/Jesus III the high priest in Jerusalem, as the candidate to marry his daughter Hanna/Anna.
Hanna/Anna, the third daughter, was betrothed to Alexander Helios (Heli) a young Macedonian Jew, of the tribe of Judah through Nathan the Levite, who was the stepson of King David.
Gnostic wrote………But the problem isn’t just with Matthew and Luke. There is also the problem with the gospel of Matthew when you compared the lines of 1 & 2 Kings (OT), in which the the gospels are missing 4 generations. I would guess that 3 of omitted names (Ahaziah, Joash & Amaziah) were made in the gospel, because the author want to use the magic number “14 generations”.
The Anointed……… Ahaziah was the only son of Ahab and Jezebel, and was not in the line of descent from King David. Ahaziah died childless. His sister, ‘Athaliah’ had married Joram/Jehoram the son of Jehoshaphat, and Joram the son-in-law to Ahab, ruled Israel after the death of his brother-in-law for four years until the death of his father Jehoshaphat the King of Judah, in the beginning of his fifth year as King of Israel, he then ruled both Israel and Judah for eight years.
Jehoram the son of Jehoshaphat, who married Athaliah the daughter of Ahab, is recorded in the genealogy of Matthew.
Athaliah named their firstborn son after her dead brother ‘Ahaziah,’ and after ruling both Israel and Judah for 12 years, Jehoram the son of Jehoshaphat, set his son ‘Ahaziah’ [The Grandson of Ahab and Jezebel] as King of Judah. This ‘Ahaziah’ [The Grandson of Ahab and Jezebel] is not recorded in Matthew.
Joash, the son of Ahaziah was the great grandson of Ahab and Jezebel, his name is also missing in Matthew 1.
Amaziah, the son of Joash, was the great- great grandson of Ahab and Jezebel. Amaziah, the father of Uzziah, is also missing from the genealogy as recorded in Matthew.
Matthew has Jehoshaphat, his son Jehoram……3 descendants of Ahab missing……then Uzziah the fourth generation from Jehoram the son of Jehoshaphat, as descendants of King David.
