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Why are Jews such an integral part of America?

ronki23

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure where this thread should go but Jews make up less than 10 percent of America's population yet they're very prominent in business, politics and entertainment. Is there a particular reason they are so popular?
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
As Thomas Sowell pointed out in his extraordinary book, Ethnic America, every immigrant group that came to America took one or another route to economic prosperity, social acceptance, and political power.

The Jews in particular capitalized on some of the cultural traits they had developed in the Old World. Traits such as a deep and abiding respect for learning, a social conscience, and a skill set suited to founding and operating businesses. All of those and other cultural traits helped them take advantage of the opportunities available in America to rise up economically, socially, and politically.

What is little known or understood is that the Jews failed in America where their cultural traits were unsuited to success. For instance, about 2000 immigrant Jewish families back in the 1800s were given farms and ranches by wealthy American philanthropists who thought it would be a way of helping them get ahead in America. Not even one single family was able to make a go at farming or ranching for more than seven years. They just lacked the cultural traits for such a thing.

But where Jews had an opportunity to go into fields that they had the cultural traits to excel at -- they did indeed excel.

By the way, they make up about 2% of the population.
 

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
Can't accurately quote the facts, but it seems that many/most of the great advances are owing to the Jews.
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
It's strange - the Jews, according to the bible, will be cursed by the Gentiles, and yet be a "blessing" to them. There's some highly competent Jewish people around. Half a million Jews were expelled from Arab lands after 1948 - that was a loss to those nations.
One cannot help but wonder that in the present state of Israel vs Palestine issues that everything the Arabs do to Jews seems to make Jews stronger. Currently it's the subterranean warfare going on - this is making Israel a world expert in underground fighting.
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
I think I know where this thread should go.

Yes, it should go on in its current honest and intelligent appraisal.
I have a tiny fraction of Jew in me - from a man who was a convict
in Van Diemans Land, and who's ancestors were shoved out of
Portugal in about 1492, and who's ancestors ancestors were
driven out of Israel ca CA 70. Most Jews are not rich or powerful.
Most Jews in history have been given a rough time. I marvel at all
the talk about the 400,000 Palestinians who claim to be refugees
from the Israeli wars, yet our media rarely mention the 500,000
Jewish refugees from the Middle East after those wars.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
I'm not sure where this thread should go but Jews make up less than 10 percent of America's population yet they're very prominent in business, politics and entertainment. Is there a particular reason they are so popular?

It's because Jews (Ashkenazi) are the smartest population in the world -more than 10 IQ points higher than Asians.

I worked for an Ashkenazi Jew once, and his thoughts on any given topic were at least twice as fast as mine, and in much greater detail. He was also a good person and allowed people in need a place to stay in his own home.
 
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ronki23

Well-Known Member
It's because Jews (Ashkenazi) are the smartest population in the world -more than 10 IQ points higher than Asians.

I worked for an Ashkenazi Jew once, and his thoughts on any given topic were at least twice as fast as mine, and in much greater detail. He was also a good person and allowed people in need a place to stay in his own home.

I'd hardly say they're smarter just because they're Ashkenazi; when I studied at University the Chinese were getting the lowest grades and the Indians and 'White' Europeans were getting the highest grades. One of the smartest guys was a Nigerian and the other Africans were in the middle when it came to grades. If we stereotype then the Chinese should be getting highest grades.

And even though the Indians were getting the highest grades i've not been impressed with the standard of Doctors from India.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
I'd hardly say they're smarter just because they're Ashkenazi; when I studied at University the Chinese were getting the lowest grades and the Indians and 'White' Europeans were getting the highest grades. One of the smartest guys was a Nigerian and the other Africans were in the middle when it came to grades. If we stereotype then the Chinese should be getting highest grades.

And even though the Indians were getting the highest grades i've not been impressed with the standard of Doctors from India.

Still though, the Jews really do have the highest IQ's in the world. That's a fact.

Ashkenazi Jews rank smartest in world

Ashkenazi Jewish intelligence - Wikipedia
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
FROM THE LINK:

According to the Institute for Ethics & Emerging Technologies, “Since 1950, 29% of the Oslo awards have gone to Ashkenazim, even though they represent only 0.25% of humanity. Ashkenazi achievement in this arena is 117 times greater than their population."

...So the Jews are something very special. Jealousy is why the Nazi's hated them.

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ronki23

Well-Known Member
Still though, the Jews really do have the highest IQ's in the world. That's a fact.

Ashkenazi Jews rank smartest in world

Ashkenazi Jewish intelligence - Wikipedia

Majority of the best Universities in the World are from America:

Harvard, Yale, MIT, University of California, Princeton

Britain:
Oxford, Cambridge, London, Edinburgh, St Andrews, Glasgow

Singapore is supposed to have the best education in the World.

Chinese and Indian Universities aren't even in the top 10.

By that logic all the best Universities should be full of Israeli, Japanese, Korean, Chinese and Indian Universities.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
FROM THE LINK:

According to the Institute for Ethics & Emerging Technologies, “Since 1950, 29% of the Oslo awards have gone to Ashkenazim, even though they represent only 0.25% of humanity. Ashkenazi achievement in this arena is 117 times greater than their population."

...So the Jews are something very special. Jealousy is why the Nazi's hated them.

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That's not why the Nazis hated Jews. Oh, and population IQs fluctuate over time. It's called the Flynn effect. Ashkenazi Jews used to test lower. Jews aren't anymore special than anyone else but I notice that Christians tend to worship Jews (after the Holocaust and in the West, at least) and put them on a pedestal, which is rather pathetic in my eyes.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
That's not why the Nazis hated Jews. Oh, and population IQs fluctuate over time. It's called the Flynn effect. Ashkenazi Jews used to test lower. Jews aren't anymore special than anyone else but I notice that Christians tend to worship Jews (after the Holocaust and in the West, at least) and put them on a pedestal, which is rather pathetic in my eyes.

I'm not a Christian. I'm a Catholic.

Also, why then did the Nazi's hate Jews?
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
Also, @Saint Frankenstein, the Flynn effect only measures "increased" IQ scores... Not "fluctuating" IQ scores. So maybe someday, one country can measure up to the Jews. Currently, however, none do.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
I'm not a Christian. I'm a Catholic.

Also, why then did the Nazi's hate Jews?
Catholics are Christians.

They hated them because they viewed Jews as poisoning German society and culture, subhuman and conspiring to ruin the nation. They blamed the loss of WWI, the loss of the German Empire and the humiliations Germany suffered after that on Jews.
 
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