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My problem with Muslims from personal experience

ronki23

Well-Known Member
I've noticed Muslims, whether they be from Sub Saharan Africa, the Indian subcontinent or Arabia, don't ever blame themselves for their wrongdoings.

They condemn Israel, complain about American foreign policy, say 9/11 was an inside job and say ISIL is a grand Israeli conspiracy.

I know a Turkish guy and a half Lebanese girl from my hometown who both drink alcohol and smoke

From college I know a British born Bangladeshi and British born Pakistani. The latter is part of Pakistani solidarity campaign (but drinks alcohol).

From undergraduate I know a Saudi male (anti Israel), an Omani girl (anti USA/Israel), a male from Guinea Bissau (anti USA/Israel, anti colonial), a half Lebanese half Libyan with a hijab, a British born Pakistani with a long beard, a British born Bangladeshi who wants to go on Hajj but he drinks alcohol, and another 3 British born Asians (don't know where they're from).

From postgrad I know a Sudanese male (hates America), a Bahrainian girl (quite liberal actually), a Saudi lady (hijab, pro Palestine), a Palestinian guy, a Jordanian girl, a Qatari girl (hijab), a Senegalese guy and a Malaysian with a hijab.
 
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LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
It is however remarkable how intense and widespread that attitude is in Muslim communities.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I've only met about 10 Muslims personally, and none of them fit this description. I guess I need to get out more. The Ismaili shopkeeper where I used to get puja supplies for home and temple always greeted me with a smile, and a discount.
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
I've noticed Muslims, whether they be from Sub Saharan Africa, the Indian subcontinent or Arabia, don't ever blame themselves for their wrongdoings.

They condemn Israel, complain about American foreign policy, say 9/11 was an inside job and say ISIL is a grand Israeli conspiracy.

AND my Muslim barber cut my hair too short...and when I said something, he blamed me for moving my head!!

So yeah, even Muslims in America!
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
I've noticed Muslims, whether they be from Sub Saharan Africa, the Indian subcontinent or Arabia, don't ever blame themselves for their wrongdoings.
Seriously? Is there any broad-brush generic group of people you don't spout bigoted contempt for?
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
I've only met about 10 Muslims personally, and none of them fit this description. I guess I need to get out more. The Ismaili shopkeeper where I used to get puja supplies for home and temple always greeted me with a smile, and a discount.

My wife worked with a Muslim at a hotel, and she said the Muslim gave special discounted rates to other Muslims.

...My mom worked for a Muslim doctor, and he treated her horribly, and my mom was the nicest person I have ever known.

Pretty Much every Muslim I have ever met are little *****es. Sorry for being so blunt, but maybe there are some decent ones that I haven't met.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
My wife worked with a Muslim at a hotel, and she said the Muslim gave special discounted rates to other Muslims.

...My mom worked for a Muslim doctor, and he treated her horribly, and my mom was the nicest person I have ever known.

Pretty Much every Muslim I have ever met are little *****es. Sorry for being so blunt, but maybe there are some decent ones that I haven't met.

Experiences vary for sure. My first encounters were my students, all Lebanese who had been in Canada for a very long time, maybe 3 or 4 generations. Maybe they had become Canadianised, I don't know. One parent was a bit over the top, (nothing to do with Islam) but so were a ton of other parents. The TV show 'Little Mosque on the Prairie' tried to show a variety.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
People, don't limit yourself to your own experiences. I have both good and bad experiences of certain types of people. If I was unlucky and only had the bad ones, would I be forced to be fully against those types of people? It applies to any group.
It all depends on how far Islam was allowed to influence a person I guess. The less devout the better.
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
People, don't limit yourself to your own experiences. I have both good and bad experiences of certain types of people. If I was unlucky and only had the bad ones, would I be forced to be fully against those types of people? It applies to any group.

So what you're saying here is that some Muslims may be good barbers?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I've noticed Muslims, whether they be from Sub Saharan Africa, the Indian subcontinent or Arabia, don't ever blame themselves for their wrongdoings.

They condemn Israel, complain about American foreign policy, say 9/11 was an inside job and say ISIL is a grand Israeli conspiracy.
An advantage (or disadvantage?) of living in SE MI is that I've never
had a bad experience with a Muslim in relation to their religion.
They're just plain folk here....except for some occasional odd garb.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I've noticed Muslims, whether they be from Sub Saharan Africa, the Indian subcontinent or Arabia, don't ever blame themselves for their wrongdoings.

They condemn Israel, complain about American foreign policy, say 9/11 was an inside job and say ISIL is a grand Israeli conspiracy.

You're generalizing Muslims as if all have the same exact thoughts,
you're absolutely wrong and I wonder if you met thousands of Muslims
that makes you think that Muslims have one similar thought.
 
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Cooky

Veteran Member
You're generalizing Muslims as of all have the same exact thoughts,
you're absolutely wrong and I wonder if you met thousands of Muslims
that makes you think that Muslims have one similar thought.

Do you think 9/11 was an inside job? Just curious, thanks.
 

ronki23

Well-Known Member
So you blame Muslims for your problems????

I've only met about 10 Muslims personally, and none of them fit this description. I guess I need to get out more. The Ismaili shopkeeper where I used to get puja supplies for home and temple always greeted me with a smile, and a discount.

I have no negative experiance with muslims personally. those i talked with and met has been nice to me

AND my Muslim barber cut my hair too short...and when I said something, he blamed me for moving my head!!

So yeah, even Muslims in America!

Seriously? Is there any broad-brush generic group of people you don't spout bigoted contempt for?

You're generalizing Muslims as of all have the same exact thoughts,
you're absolutely wrong and I wonder if you met thousands of Muslims
that makes you think that Muslims have one similar thought.

Why can't they ever blame themselves for sins committed in the name of their faith? Why always blame the Jews. Don't take my word for it- look at Pew:

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