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Trump to use desaster relief funds

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Hardly my area of expertise, but I would bet that would start a ****storm of lawsuits. People that could be affected by it may be able to rightfully claim that the border situation is not an emergency and therefore an inappropriate use of those funds.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
Well never mind the thread. Trump just made an announcement saying he is not going to call a national emergency now. He says later on if he can not get the vote in congress he may use it but says he does not want to. He was checking out the emergency disaster funds, but hopefully if he decided not to call it for now, maybe he won't resort to that.
 

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
Well never mind the thread. Trump just made an announcement saying he is not going to call a national emergency now. He says later on if he can not get the vote in congress he may use it but says he does not want to. He was checking out the emergency disaster funds, but hopefully if he decided not to call it for now, maybe he won't resort to that.

He keeps doing outrageous things but somehow remains in office ???
 

esmith

Veteran Member
By now I would think one realize that all he is doing is riling up the TDS media. And it appears that some of you are taking the bait also.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
By now I would think one realize that all he is doing is riling up the TDS media. And it appears that some of you are taking the bait also.
It pays to calmly watch things, & avoid getting caught up in political dithering.


Note:
I'm using "dither" in an engineering control system sense.
Sometimes a device will go back & forth repeatedly, hunting
for where it belongs, but always overshooting & over-correcting.
Trump reminded me of a particular such machine component.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
It pays to calmly watch things, & avoid getting caught up in political dithering.


Note:
I'm using "dither" in an engineering control system sense.
Sometimes a device will go back & forth repeatedly, hunting
for where it belongs, but always overshooting & over-correcting.
Trump reminded me of a particular such machine component.
Yeah, had some dithering problems with the receiver regulator on a 5"/38 gun mount controlling the hydraulics, talk about shaking. WOW
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Well never mind the thread. Trump just made an announcement saying he is not going to call a national emergency now. He says later on if he can not get the vote in congress he may use it but says he does not want to. He was checking out the emergency disaster funds, but hopefully if he decided not to call it for now, maybe he won't resort to that.
I just saw on a CNN headline that his reason for not doing so is that he might lose in court.

It looks like my early speculation was correct. If Trump admits that he might lose if he does something, you know that he definitely would lose.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Trump while he is deciding weather or not to call an emergency, he is also saying he will use desaster relief funds to build the wall. Unbelievable creep! How dare he do that!
Source Trump Planning to Use Disaster Relief Funding to Pay for Wall – Rolling Stone

If you get a problem with this source I saw 4 others including CBS.

Migrant deaths along the Mexico–United States border - Wikipedia

A humanitarian crisis is indeed happening with 200 to 300 migrant deaths each year while there are migrants trying to cross into the United States from Mexico; if there were a wall, these migrants would give up trying to go across the border, consequently, these people would stay put and not risk their lives coming to America.

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President Trump tweets his love for Hispanics, it's time to end this total disaster where hundreds of migrants each year are dying near the U.S.-Mexico border. A declaration of a natural emergency will enable disaster relief funding that'd solve this crisis by putting a steel slated border security barrier system in place that shows our entire nation does indeed care for the lives of Hispanics by keeping them stay put in Mexico by a wall rather than having them risk their lives getting lost without provisions in the open desert wilderness near the U.S.-Mexico border.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
I just saw on a CNN headline that his reason for not doing so is that he might lose in court.

It looks like my early speculation was correct. If Trump admits that he might lose if he does something, you know that he definitely would lose.

CNN sucks, nobody in his/her right mind should put much faith in CNN's baseless opinions.

President Donald J. Trump, as commander and chief, can legally utilize "un-obligated" money within the Defense Department's budget, because federal law allows the military to fund construction projects during war or emergencies. A Pentagon spokesman said in December 2018 that Title 10 of the U.S. Code could give the military the authority to fund border barrier projects.
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
CNN sucks, nobody in his/her right mind should put much faith in CNN's baseless opinions.

President Donald J. Trump, as commander and chief, can legally utilize "un-obligated" money within the Defense Department's budget, because federal law allows the military to fund construction projects during war or emergencies. A Pentagon spokesman said in December 2018 that Title 10 of the U.S. Code could give the military the authority to fund border barrier projects.
The claim came from Trump. They were just reporting it. And since there does not seem to be any crisis he could get in trouble for misappropriating funds.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
The claim came from Trump. They were just reporting it. And since there does not seem to be any crisis he could get in trouble for misappropriating funds.

My post #11 well-explains this humanitarian crisis where hundreds of migrants die each year while attempting to cross the dangerous desert wilderness from the open border of Mexico into the U.S. Of course, an effective border security barrier system would keep all these migrants away from the false hope they'd overcome any exhaustion and despair during their treacherous journey across the open hazardous desert wilderness near the U.S.-Mexico border.
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Trump while he is deciding weather or not to call an emergency, he is also saying he will use desaster relief funds to build the wall. Unbelievable creep! How dare he do that!
Source Trump Planning to Use Disaster Relief Funding to Pay for Wall – Rolling Stone

If you get a problem with this source I saw 4 others including CBS.
Well it would seem that ultimatum would put the ball squarely back in the Democrats Court.

I don't blame Trump for wanting to get something done proper and right for the first time. Of course it's a crisis now, it's not exactly a trickle that's crossing the border now.

'Illegal' crossing attempts at US Southwest border triple in March from year ago

That would justify declaring a national emergency if push comes to shove.

How many years now has the Democrats been stalling and putting things off never willingly passing anything unless it has a certain amount of self-serving pork and bacon in it?

Trump wants it done.

Now.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
My post #11 well-explains this humanitarian crisis where hundreds of migrants die each year while attempting to cross the dangerous desert wilderness from the open border of Mexico into the U.S. Of course, an effective border security barrier system would keep all these migrants away from the false hope they'd overcome any exhaustion and despair during their treacherous journey across the open hazardous desert wilderness near the U.S.-Mexico border.
You can keep telling yourself that. Not very many people will believe you.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
You can keep telling yourself that. Not very many people will believe you.

Nobody has to believe me what I write , they just have to see for themselves what Trump is tweeting about regarding an effective steel slated barrier design that'd keep out unwanted trespassers.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Of course, nobody in his/her right mind would even attempt to pass through this steel slated border security barrier system.
Of course they would. If you were fleeing for your life this would not deter you for a second.

Look at what they are already willing to do. If you think this is going to change their minds you are deluded.
 
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