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Do liberals and atheists honestly think Hitler represents Christianity?

ronki23

Well-Known Member
I'm trying to get through the Mao and Pol Pot thread but the notion that Hitler represents over 2 billion people is stupid.
 

Dekrikos Augustine

Life Person Thing
I'm trying to get through the Mao and Pol Pot thread but the notion that Hitler represents over 2 billion people is stupid.

I would have to agree with you.
Hitler was certainly a celebrity with the Catholics of his time, but by no means was he a representative of the entire church (let alone all of Christianity).
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Both the insistence that Hitler is to Christianity as Pol Pot or Mao is to atheism are false equivalencies. Neither being Christian nor being atheist means that you would approve of a political system that uses totalitarianism.
For similar reasons, the religious views of Einstein are not important in the discussion of the intelligence of the group.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I'm trying to get through the Mao and Pol Pot thread but the notion that Hitler represents over 2 billion people is stupid.

Hitler was a catholic leader of a mainly protestant country. His actions, writing and speeches indicate he was a religious person who believed he had god on his side. But the guy was a total nut job with outward signs of psychosis or schizophrenia, paranoia and probably pathological narcissism, who would believe a anything that made him feel superior.

Whether he represents christianity, his actions were more akin to old testament rather than the christian new testament
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Both the insistence that Hitler is to Christianity as Pol Pot or Mao is to atheism are false equivalencies.
No, they strike me as equivalent because in both cases the
religious orientation doesn't determine their governing style.
"False equivalency" is so over-mis-used.
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
... and both Hitler and Stalin had heavy formal doses of establishment Christianity. What that has to do with facial hair is unclear.
 

ronki23

Well-Known Member
Hitler was a catholic leader of a mainly protestant country. His actions, writing and speeches indicate he was a religious person who believed he had god on his side. But the guy was a total nut job with outward signs of psychosis or schizophrenia, paranoia and probably pathological narcissism, who would believe a anything that made him feel superior.

Whether he represents christianity, his actions were more akin to old testament rather than the christian new testament

The people he murdered followed the Old Testament...
 

ronki23

Well-Known Member
Yup many did, but he did not only murder Jews.

I dont see any genocides or mass murders or land grabs and war in the NT

You can't blame the Old Testament on Hitler killing Jews when they also believe in the Old Testament and not the New Testament.

Hitler was literally inbred and suffered from PTSD. He also took cocaine and heroin.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Hitler suffered from PTSD and was on both cocaine and opiods

He suffered quote a lot including occasional blindness, raging headaches, ear problems, abdominal problems, hypertension.

Cocaine and opiates along with amphetamines were commonly prescribed way back then
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
You can't blame the Old Testament on Hitler killing Jews when they also believe in the Old Testament and not the New Testament.

Hitler was literally inbred and suffered from PTSD. He also took cocaine and heroin.

I did not say he killed jews because of the OT, i said his actions were more akin to the genocides, mass murders etc of the OT.

It is disputable whether he was inbred or not although it would not be surprising, there was a lot of it about in Austria of the time
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
I'm trying to get through the Mao and Pol Pot thread but the notion that Hitler represents over 2 billion people is stupid.

True....
True........
Some folks are so extreme in their atheism that they need to crank their minds in to believing that Hitler was all about rebuilding Christianity. It's so wonky that it's crazy.

Hitler was prepared to do away with most Christians and had already started with the JWs.

Some Christian......
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
I would have to agree with you.
Hitler was certainly a celebrity with the Catholics of his time, but by no means was he a representative of the entire church (let alone all of Christianity).
Are you implying that he wasn't a celebrity among the Protestants? Fact is, Christianity in Germany during the Third Reich was predominantly Protestant. Typically its membership was twice that of Catholics.

My impression has always been that Hitler was not a religious man, nor did he really care what kind of Christian anyone was, except, perhaps, the few Romani Christians.

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