Why Trump Supporters Believe He Is Not Corrupt

[Twilight Hue]

It's funny how quickly they went from "lock her up" to "ethics aren't important."

It actually went from "lock her up" to "she got away with it".

 

[LuisDantas]

You just might like it here.
It's quite peaceful (as long as you avoid discussing politics).

I thought so once upon a time.

Then GWB happened.

 

[Revoltingest]

By "ape" do you mean scrutinize and hold accountable?

From dictionary.com....
verb (used with object), aped, ap·ing.

1. to imitate; mimic:

 

[Revoltingest]

I thought so once upon a time.

Then GWB happened.

Well, whoever is Prez, be it Dubya, Obama or Trump, life goes on.
And we have much less crime here than in Brazil.

How do you think life here changed during & after Bush?

 

[LuisDantas]

Well, whoever is Prez, be it Dubya, Obama or Trump, life goes on.

After a fashion, yes.

Edited to add: I seem to clearly recall that you did not seem quite so unfazeable when confronted with the prospect of a possible Hillary Presidency, so there is that.

And we have much less crime here than in Brazil.

Granted, we are trying hard to keep things that way here.

How do you think life here changed during & after Bush?

Bullying became socially acceptable and politically advantageous.

The right let go of even the pretense of having a conscience, social or fiscal responsibility, or any respect for truth over the immediate of "strength".

Radicalism, once frowned upon, became the way to be for the right as well. Right wing thought, never the most lucid in the first place, is now ever more difficult to tell apart from simple sociopathy unleashed.

And militarism became even more meshed with everyday life than it already was before.

I guess it is little surprise that it does not really bother the Republicans that Russia is colluding with the POTUS. For practical purposes, the right might as well ask for Putin to be the POTUS.

 

[Stanyon]

Neither was Hillary, but did that stop people from screeching "lock her up?"

Who is Hillary and why is she here?
I guess in lack of fact, divert.

 

[Shadow Link]

I guess it is little surprise that it does not really bother the Republicans that Russia is colluding with the POTUS. For practical purposes, the right might as well ask for Putin to be the POTUS.

The grievance mongers are the most baffling. Collusion to do what exactly?

 

[Shad]

Infowars? That website that does not care one whit about the truth. If he says the sun is shining, I'd go get a raincoat and a flashlight. I would not be surprised if Putin is paying him to tear down America.

Read the list. A lot of it actually happened. The major issue is Alex is asserting illegality while many of the items listed are debatable. Toss in some of the items on the list are seen as illegal long before Alex said anything about it.

 

[Father Heathen]

- Decry policy when it can be used to demonize, eg, a child dies while being held.
(The old "Think of the children!" appeal to emotion.)

What should the proper response be when a child dies due to abuse or negligence?

- Never allow consideration of alternatives:
Trump: He's corrupt & incompetent, but not Hillary. Her war mongery, ineptitude
& double dealing are not to be discussed. Cry "False equivalency!" if ever she's
compared to him.

Nine times out of ten it's conservatives who bring her up, and I don't recall seeing anyone suggest that she shouldn't be held accountable for any unethical or illegal behavior. Also, she's neither in power nor relevant. She's also not hero worshipped like Trump tends to be by his base.

- There are only 2 camps: You either oppose Trump, or you support him.
There is no position which does neither, & is solely about siding for or against policies.
You're a Trump supporter, therefore you're a scurrilous dog (no offense, @sun rise).
You believe Trump isn't corrupt, & you excuse or approve of everything he's done.
There is no defense, but for joining their side.

I've seen this sort of mentality moreso from Trump supporters than anyone else. They tend to accuse anyone who questions or criticizes Trump of being "far left socialists", even if they're a moderate liberal, a centrist, or even a fellow conservative.

 

[Father Heathen]

Who is Hillary and why is she here?
I guess in lack of fact, divert.

If you want to call having your nose rubbed in your own hypocrisy "diversion".

 

[Stanyon]

If you want to call having your nose rubbed in your own hypocrisy "diversion".

Feel free to find a quote of mine anywhere where I said "lock her up" even in jest or stated she should be locked up, I won't hold my breath.
Once again, your bluff has been called son

 

[Father Heathen]

It actually went from "lock her up" to "she got away with it".

But why would conservatives care about what she did or got away with if ethics don't matter as they now claim?

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

But why would conservatives care about what she did or got away with if ethics don't matter as they now claim?

Why indeed. The fact is? Cons are simply afraid of Powerful Women, and will seek any excuse to denigrate such females as they can invent or fabricate.

As the OP's article outlines, they want to rigidly hold to 1950's "family values" where women would be seen as doing the house hold chores, in a nice dress, while wearing pearls... (aka Donna Reed)...

 

[Father Heathen]

Feel free to find a quote of mine anywhere where I said "lock her up" even in jest or stated she should be locked up, I won't hold my breath.
Once again, your bluff has been called son

Clearly I was referring to conservatives in general who've always been quick to play the morality card but have suddenly dropped it like a hot potato out of blind partisan loyality. Why are we dancing around this?

 

[Revoltingest]

Edited to add: I seem to clearly recall that you did not seem quite so unfazeable when confronted with the prospect of a possible Hillary Presidency, so there is that.

No, even if Hillary had won, things would still be hunky dory here.
My voting against her was due to things other than living in peace
& comfort here. More war would've been horrible for those we'd
attack.

Bullying became socially acceptable and politically advantageous.

Starting under Dubya?
Nah. We had some anti-Muslim sentiments after 9/11/01, but that
wasn't his doing. I recall that he even spoke to minimize that.

The right let go of even the pretense of having a conscience, social or fiscal responsibility, or any respect for truth over the immediate of "strength".

We've not had fiscally responsible presidents in my lifetime.
So it certainly didn't start with #43.

Radicalism, once frowned upon, became the way to be for the right as well. Right wing thought, never the most lucid in the first place, is now ever more difficult to tell apart from simple sociopathy unleashed.

And militarism became even more meshed with everyday life than it already was before.

Some police have militarized, but this doesn't affect everyday life for all.
That's a problem for some unlucky few.
I've never seen it here where I live.
(We skipped the militarization bit.)

I guess it is little surprise that it does not really bother the Republicans that Russia is colluding with the POTUS. For practical purposes, the right might as well ask for Putin to be the POTUS.

There's no determination of the Russian collusion you claim.
It's a popular claim...like the one that Trump is the next Hitler,
or that Obama is a Muslim. Just not supported by evidence.

 

[Revoltingest]

What should the proper response be when a child dies due to abuse or negligence?

Investigate.
Correct any problems found.

Nine times out of ten it's conservatives who bring her up, and I don't recall seeing anyone suggest that she shouldn't be held accountable for any unethical or illegal behavior. Also, she's neither in power nor relevant. She's also not hero worshipped like Trump tends to be by his base.

I've seen this sort of mentality moreso from Trump supporters than anyone else. They tend to accuse anyone who questions or criticizes Trump of being "far left socialists", even if they're a moderate liberal, a centrist, or even a fellow conservative.

Citing problems from some conservatives still
doesn't justify bad behavior by Trump's detractors.

 

[Watchmen]

After a fashion, yes.

Edited to add: I seem to clearly recall that you did not seem quite so unfazeable when confronted with the prospect of a possible Hillary Presidency, so there is that.



Granted, we are trying hard to keep things that way here.



Bullying became socially acceptable and politically advantageous.

The right let go of even the pretense of having a conscience, social or fiscal responsibility, or any respect for truth over the immediate of "strength".

Radicalism, once frowned upon, became the way to be for the right as well. Right wing thought, never the most lucid in the first place, is now ever more difficult to tell apart from simple sociopathy unleashed.

And militarism became even more meshed with everyday life than it already was before.

I guess it is little surprise that it does not really bother the Republicans that Russia is colluding with the POTUS. For practical purposes, the right might as well ask for Putin to be the POTUS.

That’s BS. The bullies are on the left: “Think exactly as I do or you will be crucified in every way possible.”

 

[Revoltingest]

That’s BS. The bullies are on the left: “Think exactly as I do or you will be crucified in every way possible.”

Certainly on RF, the bullies are typically the lefties.
Conservatives are more tolerant when I disagree with them.
(Not one has ever urged me to choke to death on my own bile.)

 

[LuisDantas]

That’s BS. The bullies are on the left: “Think exactly as I do or you will be crucified in every way possible.”

That is fiction. No more, no less.

 

[Curious George]

That is fiction. No more, no less.

There are indeed bullies throughout the political spectrum.