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Was Christ Both Male And Female?

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I found this when researching my favourite historical figure, Jesus Christ:

Jesus may have been a hermaphrodite, claims academic

So… did Jesus of Nazareth have “hidden female physical features” and was therefore both male and female?

Does this even sound likely?

I think he had stereotypically feminine character traits, so maybe

It would also make him more representative of humanity

But we can never know for sure

And I don't think it's important anyway

And he obviously identified as male so we should probably respect that

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I honstly dont see how jesus can be a woman nor intersex. Prophets are usually men, religious figures in jewish traditions are men, the Church follows as a man tradition. Why would one assume he is a woman of any sort?
 

Eddi

Agnostic
Premium Member
I honstly dont see how jesus can be a woman nor intersex. Prophets are usually men, religious figures in jewish traditions are men, the Church follows as a man tradition. Why would one assume he is a woman of any sort?

I think it would make sense, given how (as you said) prophets and religious figures are all (as far as we know) men. I think God is committed to gender equality and is himself gender neutral

I think it's possible God wanted to send a woman prophet to be Jesus but knew she'd be treated as a witch and persecuted, and her message ignored by the patriarchal society, so he sent the next best thing
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
A fair point, but to that I would say that the authors of the bible may have not realised he was intersex, so would record him as a man - especially if in all his mighty authority he identified as being simply a man. If he was intersex maybe he himself didn't know?

I still maintain it is possible for him to have been both, in spite of your point about the bible

Let's speculate: What if God wanted to send a woman prophet to Earth in or around the time he sent Christ - the patriarchal society of that time would have treated her as a witch! They wouldn't have paid any attention to her message. She'd have been born a second-class person for life and her life would have been mostly drudgery, submission and servitude. How could God get over that? Send the next best thing - a female who is externally male!

Perhaps the twelve disciples were in on this but supported him, and one of the reasons the religious establishment was against him was because they knew too, but felt threatened by him?

I think this makes sense, as speculation
This is basically the Ancient Aliens form of "logic". "They didn't say it wasn't aliens, so is it possible it was?". You can "speculate" any number of fantastic scenarios on that basis but that's just your imagination running wild and there's no reason to take it seriously.
 

Duke_Leto

Active Member
Dr Cornwall, of Manchester University’s Lincoln Theological Institute, describes herself on her blog as specialising in: “Research and writing in feminist theology, sexuality, gender, embodiment, ethics and other fun things like that.”

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In her paper “Intersex & Ontology, A Response to The Church, Women Bishops and Provision”, she argues that it is not possible to know “with any certainty” that Jesus did not suffer from an intersex condition, with both male and female organs.

If not for the source, I would think this were a joke article.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I think it would make sense, given how (as you said) prophets and religious figures are all (as far as we know) men. I think God is committed to gender equality and is himself gender neutral

I think it's possible God wanted to send a woman prophet to be Jesus but knew she'd be treated as a witch and persecuted, and her message ignored by the patriarchal society, so he sent the next best thing

I dont see the details of jesus being only but so far back that we can entertain that jesus could be anything other than what he was. I mean little over two thousand years ago isnt that long. Why would we think jesus is anything but male but skip to nowadays, we dont give it a second thought that humans dont literally fall from the sky of the divine.

Then I also wonder about time period. The most modern prophet I know so far to be a godly is Bahai. But no one asks if he is male or female. So, I guess philosophizing, but

How does god send people only three thousand years ago but nowadays, we only have faith but no actual god interaction?

While jesus probably lived, I doubt he experienced any of the supernatural things christians have blased on him in the last thousands of years. I wonder if jews believe moses actually parted the red see and animals talked.

Being from a patriarch society, why would we think of him as anything but man?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
It is possible that he was intersex but that all those who knew him and saw him preach and work miracles took him as a pure man as that's what he looked like - he had a willy (we know he was circumcised), a beard, no breasts etc., hence he was treated and known as a pure man and was recorded as such in the bible
It's also possible he was a chimpanzee. It's just not particularly probable.
 

Eddi

Agnostic
Premium Member
It's also possible he was a chimpanzee. It's just not particularly probable.

Someone stated earlier on this thread that 1.7% of the world's population are in some way intersex

If we accept this then there's definitely a chance Christ may have been - and no matter how small this chance, it is still much, much greater than the chances of him being a chimpanzee. The two probabilities don't compare.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Someone stated earlier on this thread that 1.7% of the world's population are in some way intersex

If we accept this then there's definitely a chance Christ may have been - and no matter how small this chance, it is still much, much greater than the chances of him being a chimpanzee. The two probabilities don't compare.
If you want to insist so. Don't expect a lot of people to get on board with this nonsense.
 

ajay0

Well-Known Member
In an enlightened one or Buddha, the male and female components in him are considered to be in perfect harmony.

The concept of Ardhanareshwara in Hinduism corresponds to it...

Ardhanarishvara - Wikipedia

In Taoism, it would be the ying and yang in balanced harmony.


So, if Jesus was enlightened, he would be 'both male and female'.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I found this when researching my favourite historical figure, Jesus Christ:

Jesus may have been a hermaphrodite, claims academic

So… did Jesus of Nazareth have “hidden female physical features” and was therefore both male and female?

Does this even sound likely?

I think he had stereotypically feminine character traits, so maybe

It would also make him more representative of humanity

But we can never know for sure

And I don't think it's important anyway

And he obviously identified as male so we should probably respect that

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Well considering he is believed by a lot of Christians to have had long hair, I would say hermaphrodite would be an awesome depiction. Jesus does have a lot of feminine and masculine aspects to his character.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Well considering he is believed by a lot of Christians to have had long hair, I would say hermaphrodite would be an awesome depiction.
If they believed it it's only because that's how painters, who are a fem bunch of artsy people, liked to paint him.

Jesus does have a lot of feminine and masculine aspects to his character.
Lacking all signs of specific gender, no doubt he vacillated between the two.

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EverChanging

Well-Known Member
I found this when researching my favourite historical figure, Jesus Christ:

Jesus may have been a hermaphrodite, claims academic

So… did Jesus of Nazareth have “hidden female physical features” and was therefore both male and female?

Does this even sound likely?

I think he had stereotypically feminine character traits, so maybe

It would also make him more representative of humanity

But we can never know for sure

And I don't think it's important anyway

And he obviously identified as male so we should probably respect that

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Pic related​

I have wondered the same. Assuming he was born of a virgin and that Mary was not intersexed, she wouldn't have a Y chromosome to pass on.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Well considering he is believed by a lot of Christians to have had long hair, I would say hermaphrodite would be an awesome depiction. Jesus does have a lot of feminine and masculine aspects to his character.
That is not what Jesus would've looked like. Jewish men aren't allowed to have long hair, except for the sidelocks. I don't see anything feminine about Jesus, either.

Jesus most likely looked similar to this, according to forensic reconstruction:
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masonlandry

Member
I found this when researching my favourite historical figure, Jesus Christ:

Jesus may have been a hermaphrodite, claims academic

So… did Jesus of Nazareth have “hidden female physical features” and was therefore both male and female?

Does this even sound likely?

I think he had stereotypically feminine character traits, so maybe

It would also make him more representative of humanity

But we can never know for sure

And I don't think it's important anyway

And he obviously identified as male so we should probably respect that

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Pic related​

There is no evidence for Jesus being intersex. Being more feminine than an average man doesn't require an intersex condition, but aside from that, we don't really have much idea of what was stereotypically masculine and feminine in his time, aside from what we can gather. It very well not have been viewed the same way we view masculinity and femininity.
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
Does this even sound likely?
From a mythological standpoint, it makes perfect sense, as many cultures thought the First Couple was both male and female, perhaps just one being that was split into two, like Adam. In many cultures, non cis hetero types would be considered sacred for representing the original type of human.

And I don't think it's important anyway
Well, "in Christ there is neither male nor female." :)

No there is not any chance he was intersex, no enlighten masters is intersex on earth.
That's hard to swallow. If there is no self, no differentiation, then any gender combo makes no difference at all.

Where in the bible does it say Jesus was man and woman when he was on earth?
This is the same bible that tries to rewrite some Christian leaders' names as masculine (Junia/Junias IIRC) because as the Church became more and more anti-woman, evidence of women church leaders wasn't allowed.

Jesus was male, because male has the x chromosome with the y.
Who ran his genetic study?

So, while I guess Jesus could have been a hermaphrodite, I think it's far more likely he was born without any sex organs or sexual characteristics at all.
I think there's a reason he doesn't have sex in the bible and Matt 19:12 has him sympathizing with "eunuchs".

Prophets are usually men, religious figures in jewish traditions are men, the Church follows as a man tradition.
Deborah was certainly not a man. Jesus had many female apostles that were downplayed due to the misogyny of the male ones.

Jesus most likely looked similar to this, according to forensic reconstruction:
Yeah, Jesus wasn't Bishonen. :)
 
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