The Crimson Universe
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While i was going through the sample pages of Ramanuja's gita bhasya, i came across his commentary (of ch.12 v3) -
Here's the link. Check the sample pages there. Page 173. Last paragraph.
A Condensed Rendering of Sri Ramanuja's Gita Bhashya
Why would Ramanuja say in his commentaries that people (advaitins) meditate on the individual self, jiva, when the truth is, advaitins actually meditate on the universal self, Atman or Brahman.
I mean, why would anyone meditate on one's individual self (jiva/jivatman), which according to Shankara is the lower worldly self absorbed in ego, greed, hatred etc.
According to the advaitins, jiva/jivatma is the same as Atman/ParamAtman. The same Brahman is called by two names. In its true or higher nature its called ParamAtman, even while being in the body ... and in its worldly ego driven state its called jivatman.
Yes, its the same entity Brahman, but why anyone would meditate on this Brahman while IT remains in its lower, worldly, individual, egoistic self? It makes no sense.
Either Ramanuja intentionally did that (wrote down wrong information on the meditative practices of advaitins) ... or Jiva probably means something else in their dvaita sampradia.
"Those who follows the path of aksara the imperishable, meditate on the pratyagatma, the individual self, which is different from the body and cannot be described ..."
Here's the link. Check the sample pages there. Page 173. Last paragraph.
A Condensed Rendering of Sri Ramanuja's Gita Bhashya
Why would Ramanuja say in his commentaries that people (advaitins) meditate on the individual self, jiva, when the truth is, advaitins actually meditate on the universal self, Atman or Brahman.
I mean, why would anyone meditate on one's individual self (jiva/jivatman), which according to Shankara is the lower worldly self absorbed in ego, greed, hatred etc.
According to the advaitins, jiva/jivatma is the same as Atman/ParamAtman. The same Brahman is called by two names. In its true or higher nature its called ParamAtman, even while being in the body ... and in its worldly ego driven state its called jivatman.
Yes, its the same entity Brahman, but why anyone would meditate on this Brahman while IT remains in its lower, worldly, individual, egoistic self? It makes no sense.
Either Ramanuja intentionally did that (wrote down wrong information on the meditative practices of advaitins) ... or Jiva probably means something else in their dvaita sampradia.