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It is time to revise the Methodology of Science

Would you, if you'd be editor, accept the paper for publication in "Nature"?

  • Yes, the paper has truth in it.

  • No, I do not like even truth.

  • No!!!


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questfortruth

Well-Known Member
Let us assume, that Y-Chromosomal Adam lived 600 years before the Mitochondrial
Eve was born. But the female ancestor of that Eve lived also 600 years before
the Mitochondrial Eve. Do you follow, or it is way too complicated? According to Wikipedia, there is non-zero probability, that Y-Chromosomal Adam lived same time as Mitochondrial Eve. The Mitochondrial Eve has grand-grand-grand-mother called "original Eve''. Enough grand, that this grand-grand-grand-Eve lived the same time with Y-Chromosomal Adam. Do you copy that?

If the Y-Chromosomal Adam lived centuries before the Mitochondrial Eve,
then the future Eve was in the genus of those who lived with Adam.
Therefore, one can say that Adam lived at the same time as Eve. This is
argued in this paper. In addition, I use the opportunity for a discourse
about the methodology of science, proposing a change of methodology.
Well, how could we all have gone in the wrong direction? The wrong direction
started from Ancient Greece, when the methodology of mistrust began to form.
This direction was developed by the Christians: Popper, Occam, Darwin were
Christians. Is sounds like the Church Schism. Today, Dr.Kaku teaches that
reality does not exist and that the Science got it all wrong:


 

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Altfish

Veteran Member
  1. Yes, the paper has truth in it.
  2. No, I do not like even truth.
Those are really the only vote choices. Grief, even the GOP couldn't rig it that badly.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
Still doesn't make any sense. You didn't even explain your proposal, and no, just because two organisms are members of the same genus,if they live centuries apart, you can't really say they are contemporary.
Let us assume, that Y-Chromosomal Adam lived 600 years before the Mitochondrial Eve was born. But the female ancestor of that Eve lived also 600 years before the Mitochondrial Eve. Do you follow, or it is way too complicated?
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Let us assume, that Y-Chromosomal Adam lived 600 years before the Mitochondrial Eve was born. But the female ancestor of that Eve lived also 600 years before the Mitochondrial Eve. Do you follow, or it is way too complicated?
I follow. But they were much further apart than 600 years, and your trying to avoid the inconvenient fact that they weren't contemporary.

Queen Elizabeth the 1st lived 400 years before us. She was the same genus. Try telling people she lived at the same time as you they'd put you away.
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
Let us assume, that Y-Chromosomal Adam lived 600 years before the Mitochondrial
Eve was born. But the female ancestor of that Eve lived also 600 years before
the Mitochondrial Eve. Do you follow, or it is way too complicated?

If the Y-Chromosomal Adam lived centuries before the Mitochondrial Eve,
then the future Eve was in the genus of those who lived with Adam.
Therefore, one can say that Adam lived at the same time as Eve. This is
argued in this paper. In addition, I use the opportunity for a discourse
about the methodology of science, proposing a change of methodology.
Well, how could we all have gone in the wrong direction? The wrong direction
started from Ancient Greece, when the methodology of mistrust began to form.
This direction was developed by the Christians: Popper, Occam, Darwin were
Christians. Is sounds like the Church Schism. Today, Dr.Kaku teaches that
reality does not exist and that the Science got it all wrong:


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questfortruth

Well-Known Member
I follow. But they were much further apart than 600 years, and your trying to avoid the inconvenient fact that they weren't contemporary.

Queen Elizabeth the 1st lived 400 years before us. She was the same genus. Try telling people she lived at the same time as you they'd put you away.
According to Wikipedia, there is non-zero probability, that Y-Chromosomal Adam lived same time as Mitochondrial Eve. The Mitochondrial Eve has grand-grand-grand-grand-mother. Enough grand, that this grand-grand-grand-grand-mother lived the same time with Y-Chromosomal Adam. Do you copy that?
 

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
Having seen the ridiculous lengths that people will go to when they do not agree, none of this is surprising. It's been a source of frustration to see both religious and scientific types go at it hammer and tong about issues that neither side can conclusively prove. It seems clear that humanity will likely have to evolve another two steps before they will be able to think about existence from both a theological and scientific view at once and we may not survive that long. I'm disappointed.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Let us assume, that Y-Chromosomal Adam lived 600 years before the Mitochondrial
Eve was born. But the female ancestor of that Eve lived also 600 years before
the Mitochondrial Eve. Do you follow, or it is way too complicated? According to Wikipedia, there is non-zero probability, that Y-Chromosomal Adam lived same time as Mitochondrial Eve. The Mitochondrial Eve has grand-grand-grand-mother called "original Eve''. Enough grand, that this grand-grand-grand-Eve lived the same time with Y-Chromosomal Adam. Do you copy that?

If the Y-Chromosomal Adam lived centuries before the Mitochondrial Eve,
then the future Eve was in the genus of those who lived with Adam.
Therefore, one can say that Adam lived at the same time as Eve. This is
argued in this paper. In addition, I use the opportunity for a discourse
about the methodology of science, proposing a change of methodology.
Well, how could we all have gone in the wrong direction? The wrong direction
started from Ancient Greece, when the methodology of mistrust began to form.
This direction was developed by the Christians: Popper, Occam, Darwin were
Christians. Is sounds like the Church Schism. Today, Dr.Kaku teaches that
reality does not exist and that the Science got it all wrong:

I didn't vote because of the limited options. No, if I were an editor and received this paper submitted for publication, I would not even send it to a referee. I would consider it to be only worthy of the trash can, or, perhaps, to put up on the wall for jokes and snide commentary.

Why? Because it is trivial and not an insight missed by anyone doing research in the field. It is also largely irrelevant to anything else. Whether one of Mito Eve's great-gandmothers many times removed is a contemporary of Y-Adam isn't particularly relevant to anything: they almost certainly didn't know each other.

As for the methodology of science: it is precisely because of stuff along this line that we have peer review to eliminate the crud.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
Why? Because it is trivial and not an insight missed by anyone doing research in the field. It is also largely irrelevant to anything else. Whether one of Mito Eve's great-gandmothers many times removed is a contemporary of Y-Adam isn't particularly relevant to anything: they almost certainly didn't know each other.
A wishfull thinking. Please prove, that humans did know, that Y-Chromosomal Adam lived the same time with the Original Eve. You are simply nihilating my results, totally unjust way.
 
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