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Does the Bible mention Islam?

Is Islam mentioned in the Bible


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Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Had you any understanding about the bible, God gives how to know the mind of God's.
As it is written in the book of
Isaiah 55:8-9--"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord"

9-- "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts"

Now if your thoughts and ways do not line up to God's thoughts and ways. Then your on the wrong path.

But the question is, What is God's thoughts and ways, the bible explains exactly what is God's thoughts and ways. It's all there in the bible all about God's thoughts and ways are.
The book of Revelation, has no symbolism.

Everything in Revelation, God has given what everything represents and who everything represents. With No symbolism added.
If stuff in Revelation "represents" other stuff, that's pretty much what a symbol is.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
So when people try to tell me about my bible.
That they themselves have no clue or idea what the bible will say or Confirm's themselves.that speaks for itself.
It is not "your Bible." Nobody owns the Bible...
The Bible does not speak for itself...
All books require interpretation in order to be understood...
It is highly arrogant for people to say that they alone KNOW what the Bible means above all others.
Only God knows what the Bible was intended to mean.... Obviously Christians do not know and because they disagree on what it means we know that some of them have to be wrong, logically speaking, since Truth cannot be contradictory.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
If it means anything other than precisely 144 000, then it's symbolic.


That's the point I'm getting at. That in the book of Revelation, God uses certain animals and certain insects to represent people and Nation's and kingdoms.

To figure out, what and who the Locust army is, In Revelation chapter 9,
How does Locust operate, what do Locust eat, how does scorpions operate and how does scorpions catch their prey and what happens once the scorpions catch their prey.
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
That's speculation. Obviously the Jews were unhappy with Jesus for all sorts of reasons including His claim to be the Messiah and Son of God (Matthew 26:63-64). The Roman's were complicit in the crucifixion as well.

It's not speculation, all three synoptics have this:

1) "Yes, I AM"
2) "We need no other witnesses, this man equates Himself with God and must die!"
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
It is not "your Bible." Nobody owns the Bible...
The Bible does not speak for itself...
All books require interpretation in order to be understood...
It is highly arrogant for people to say that they alone KNOW what the Bible means above all others.
Only God knows what the Bible was intended to mean.... Obviously Christians do not know and because they disagree on what it means we know that some of them have to be wrong, logically speaking, since Truth cannot be contradictory.

Then why can't people put the things together in the bible, to make any sense of the things in the bible.
If the bible is for everyone as you say it is.

Can you explain by using the bible, What happen back during the first earth age, That brought us to be here in this second earth age.
The bible explains all of this, But can you explain it.
So if the bible is for everyone as you say it is, then explain what happened back during the first earth age that brought us to be here in this second earth age?

Can you explain how everything is to come down from the beginning to end of the Bible.
 
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Muffled

Jesus in me
the word Islam means to voluntarily submit to God. The entire Bible is about just that.

The name Muhammad means 'Praised, commendable, or laudable'. The whole Bible is about man being enabled to develop praiseworthy attributes such as truthfulness, justice and compassion.

I believe you are right but that still does not mean the Bible predicted there would be a prophet preaching exactly that message.

Again the Bible provides a template for how one should act but it does not predict that Mohamed would act the way He did.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Not in the way people takes symbolic to represent and means.

Like for instance, does the 144.000 in the book of Revelation, is it an actual number or a symbolic number, which has no significant meaning to it.

It is mentioned for a reason. It adds to 9 and 9 is significant.

Interestingly, I have always wondered how 666 also adds to 9.

Regards Tony
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Ah, yes, but the Left-Hand-Path followers, Satanists and all manner of other 'less-usual' practitioners can do that with equally excellent providence of proof. :p

I believe my name is found in the Bible:
Isa 32:18 My people will abide in a peaceful habitation, in secure dwellings, and in quiet resting places.

So just follow me and all will be fine.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
It is mentioned for a reason. It adds to 9 and 9 is significant.

Interestingly, I have always wondered how 666 also adds to 9.

Regards Tony

I believe in numerology 9 is the number of power. The 144 have power with God the 666 has the power of the devil. 144 is 12 times 12 and very symbolic but that doesn't mean that God can't make it a reality as well.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
By that Biblical standard, Muhammad passes to be true.

If you are accusing Muhammad as false, then did you judge Muhammad by some of those that called themselves Muslims, or by the word and standard of Muhammad?

Is that how we would Judge Jesus, by the followers?

Regards Tony

I believe the question is whether he had a prophecy come true. I think the virgin prophecy will come true in the Kingdom of God but no one is going to know until then.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I believe the question is whether he had a prophecy come true. I think the virgin prophecy will come true in the Kingdom of God but no one is going to know until then.

The Message of Muhammad as given in the Quran, was given a dispensation of 1260 years. Written in prophecy as Times, Times and Half a time, 3 & 1/2 years, 42 months or 1260 days.

In the thought that every one of Gods Messages makes things New, that they are a new Jerusalem, a new heaven and a new earth, in that sense they are all a bride come down from heaven and Virgin born.

Regards Tony
 
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Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
It is mentioned for a reason. It adds to 9 and 9 is significant.

Interestingly, I have always wondered how 666 also adds to 9.

Regards Tony

But little do people know, God has given within Revelation what the number 666 represents and who it represents. All in Revelation.
People come up with all sorts of things what the number 666 represents, but little do people know, God has given in Revelation what the number 666 represents and who.

In Revelation a person will find there are
7 seals, 7 trumpets, 7 Vials.

Which the 6th seal, 6th trumpet, 6 vial,
When put together = 666, this being the Mark of the beast = 666--6 seal, 6 trump,
6 vial = 666 = mark of the beast, Satan.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
But little do people know, God has given within Revelation what the number 666 represents and who it represents. All in Revelation.
People come up with all sorts of things what the number 666 represents, but little do people know, God has given in Revelation what the number 666 represents and who.

In Revelation a person will find there are
7 seals, 7 trumpets, 7 Vials.

Which the 6th seal, 6th trumpet, 6 vial,
When put together = 666, this being the Mark of the beast = 666--6 seal, 6 trump,
6 vial = 666 = mark of the beast, Satan.

I will leave you with your thoughts.

Peace be with you, all the best.

Regards Tony
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
Using the same logic, isn't the fact that Christianity isn't mentioned in the Pentaeuch kinda of problematic?

We need to get past words to understand the spiritual message the authors of the Bible are trying to convey. The Jews see no verses in the Tanakh relating to Jesus, whereas many Christians see over 300 verses that are prophetic. It is a matter of perception and Faith.

Muhammad in the Quran affirms the importance of both the Torah and Gospels. He says its not enough to follow Islam but all the prophets that have gone beforehand with special emphasis on Jesus and Moses. Over 50 Biblical characters are mentioned in the Quran and there are many similarities between Judaism, Christianity and Islam. The three religions have more in common with each other than with Hinduism or Buddhism, though the are important shared themes in all religion.

Early Islamic scholars examined how Muhammad fulfilled prophecies in both the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament in much the same way as Christians have with the Hebrew Bible. For cultural reasons the process with the Muslims became derailed early on and the narrative became focused on how the Gospel and the Torah had become corrupted, in part because there wasn't any clear specific references to Muhammad. Besides there were contradictions with the Quran, for example with the crucifixion of Christ. More recently the attention has focused back on Biblical prophecy but viewing it more symbolically as the Christians have. The Muslims don't have anywhere near as many as the 300+ prophecies the Christians can claim. Maybe if they work at it long enough they will!

My perspective as a Baha'i is that Jesus fulfils Messianic prophecies in the Tanakh and Muhammad fulfils prophecies in both the Tanakh and the New Testament.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
I believe my name is found in the Bible:
Isa 32:18 My people will abide in a peaceful habitation, in secure dwellings, and in quiet resting places.

So just follow me and all will be fine.

Huh? That wasn't/isn't you mentioned in Isaiah?! You can't be one of those/His people as mentioned in Isaiah?!
Your dwellings aren't secure.
The resting places are not quiet.
Wherever you (and I) are there is trouble.
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
It's not speculation, all three synoptics have this:

1) "Yes, I AM"
2) "We need no other witnesses, this man equates Himself with God and must die!"

You will need to cite which scripture you refer.

Do these words sound like it is God Himself that speaks?

And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Matthew 27:46
 

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
How else did it get to all Nations?



Well that is just not true :) A christain may decide thats what they say.

Regards Tony
Just what do you think the "true" gospel is? 'Cause the evangelical Christians, that's the ones that go spread the word, they go tell people about being saved from hell by believing in Jesus. And you know the rest. Your Mom probably tells you that gospel all the time. Another part of that gospel "spreads" the news about Judaism by telling the world how they got off track. How following the Law will not save them... only by believing in Jesus gets them saved. And also, in the gospel those Christians teach, they don't think Muhammad nor Baha'u'llah are the "return" of Christ.
 
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