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Has the devil harmed you?

Cooky

Veteran Member
I seriously disagree. Matter and anti-matter are manifestation of the physical and very natural.

Actually anti-matter is not! It's actually non-physical as I understand it. Whether it's "natural" depends on your definition of natural.

...They say that if anti-matter would have outweighed matter, in the formation of the universe, there would be no existance of anything material at all. It would be blank space.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Actually anti-matter is not! It's actually non-physical as I understand it. Whether it's "natural" depends on your definition of natural.

If anti=matter exists it is natural. There remains many unanswered questions concerning what anti-matter is and the role it plays in the nature of our 'physical existence.'
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
That is because we are very fallible humans.



Actually No. It is an ancient concept based on mythology more in Christianity than Judaism. The Baha'i Faith, Islam, Buddhism, Taoism, and Hinduism do not have the concept of an incarnate evil comparable to the devil/satan.
Islam does have Satan, it's just not viewed completely the same. There are exorcisms in Islam, too.
Shaitan - Wikipedia

There are demons in Judaism, too. Pretty much every culture or religion has a belief in evil, malicious or harmful spirits.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Islam does have Satan, it's just not viewed completely the same. There are exorcisms in Islam, too.
Shaitan - Wikipedia. Your probably correct, because Islam inherits the mythology of Genesis, which the Baha'i Faith rejects.

There are demons in Judaism, too. Pretty much every culture or religion has a belief in evil, malicious or harmful spirits.

Demons, malicious or harmful spirits are not the the same. The the problem in Judaism is that the mythology of Genesis play a role as with Christians and Muslims. It is true that the literal Genesis is not embraced in contemporary Judaism.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Demons, malicious or harmful spirits are not the the same. The the problem in Judaism is that the mythology of Genesis play a role as with Christians and Muslims. It is true that the literal Genesis is not embraced in contemporary Judaism.
I didn't say they were the same. But demons fulfill the same role that evil spirits by other names do in other cultures.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
What caused the devil to appear was law; knowledge of good and evil. This is base on the way the brain writes to memory. When memory is written to the cerebral matter an emotional tag is added by the aspects of the limbic system. Our memory has both content and feeling.

The problem with law is contains both good and evil in the same thing. This is not natural since in nature things are morally neutral and good things have a warm fuzzy emotional tag and harmful things have a fearful tag.

Law created the practical problem of conflicting feeling tags. The conflicting feelings causes the brain to maintain higher potential; damming and repression. The brain settles this energy problem by storing law memories in two places, even though law is still one thing. It is like two side of the same coin, where we can only see heads or tails, but not both at the same time.

If we try to do good by the law, the dark side of the law is still active, but via a reflection in the unconscious mind. This is the matrix of the devil. This matrix can spontaneously form subroutines in an attempt to minimize the potential. The result is a person who tries to go good may be driven by impulses or temptation. It can also generate hallucinations. It is a real affect.

Since cultures define law for all its people, the subroutines of the Devil can become collective in nature; war and crime. The positive side is connected to will power and choice; creative element. Jesus did away with the law, since he understood the repression problem. However, humans went back to law, with the amount of law proportional to the potential of the Devil matrix. It is not coincidence that liberalism which likes laws and regulations shows more lawlessness.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
The Devil was originally called Satan. Satan was the Lord of the Earth and had access to Heaven. Satan was in paradise when Adam and Eve appear. Satan was the left hand man of God in the Old Testament. Satan is not thrown from Heaven until Revelations of the New Testament, which occurs after the time of Jesus. Then he becomes the Devil.

Satan in Heaven symbolized that the neural subroutine, due to dark side of law, was the driving force behind the conscious appearance of light; good side of law. In other words, if you lived in a dark evil place, like in a war zone, even subtle gestures of kindness, normally seen as evil during peace time, will appear as good, due to the contrast.

For example, instead of someone killing you with a sword, they kick you to unconsciousness, but you live and survive. This would seem merciful, under evil circumstances, even though it is still brutal. In that sense, the subroutines called Satan, induced by the original law, had the affect of creating a very dark contrast, so subtle light could be made conscious; better ways to behave. Gray can look white against pure black. The Satan Subroutine of dark side impulse, made people reflect on a kinder way, based on a contrast with this deep darkness, which eventually manifests as Jesus.

Jesus for-fills the law. Law created the polarization from which the Satan subroutine would induce a secondary subroutine; Jesus. The Jesus subroutine would replace Satan in the neural hierarchy. Jesus goes to heaven and Satan become more conscious or thrown to earth. It was a major update in the operating system of the human brain.

Satan thrown from Heaven to earth symbolizes the change in neural hierarchy with the Satan subroutine now connected to the shadow side of the conscious mind; ID of Freud. It becomes closer to the ego. There it is more subject to will power and conscious choice, instead of spontaneous actions; criminally insane. This new place for Satan is being reflected by the Jesus subroutine, which is very bright white; perfect. Subtle darkness now appears darker due to contrast with the bright light. Gray can look black if the white is very white. The brain is learning to become more differential.

A key invention for this evolution into the modern human mind, was the invention of writing. Before writing, there was only spoken language. Spoken language could also support law. However, with spoken language, law is not carved into stone. There is no easy way to reinforce the memory over the long term, so the inner polarization does not form to the same degree. Satan was originally Lucifer. Lucifer was a polarization subroutine due to spoken law, but it had much less potential. It was more of a creative rebel spirit. The invention of writing forced things to be carved into stone causing the polarization to become long term with much higher potential; death appears to contrast life and light.

The Devil is real in the sense it is like a computer program that forms in the human brain. The concept of original sin appears to indicate a mind over matter that have written this subroutine to genetics. It comes down to how much potential we consciously create. It can be Lucifer, Satan or the Devil.
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
The Devil was originally called Satan. Satan was the Lord of the Earth and had access to Heaven. Satan was in paradise when Adam and Eve appear. Satan was the left hand man of God in the Old Testament. Satan is not thrown from Heaven until Revelations of the New Testament, which occurs after the time of Jesus. Then he becomes the Devil.
A devil is the personification of evil as it is conceived in many and various cultures and religious traditions long before Christianity. It is seen as the objectification of a hostile and destructive force.

Satan was originally Lucifer. Lucifer was a polarization subroutine due to spoken law, but it had much less potential. It was more of a creative rebel spirit. The invention of writing forced things to be carved into stone causing the polarization to become long term with much higher potential; death appears to contrast life and light.
Lucifer has nothing to do with the Abrahamic faiths, he is NOT the Satan found in the Abrahamic myths. Lucifer as a deity is not mentioned in the Christian bible, but the word 'Lucifer' is used adjectivally as a title. The biblical use of the word Lucifer is personifying the Morning Star of Phoenician/Canaan cosmology.

Lucifer the Roman-Greco deity is mentioned in Publius Ovidius Naso's "Metamorphoses", which was written in 8 B.C.E., the Roman poet Virgil mentions him as far back as 29 B.C.E. And the first mention is from Timaeus by Plato in 360 B.C.E. This Lucifer is also portrayed as a Lunar deity unlike his usual association with Venus.


The Devil is real in the sense it is like a computer program that forms in the human brain. The concept of original sin appears to indicate a mind over matter that have written this subroutine to genetics. It comes down to how much potential we consciously create. It can be Lucifer, Satan or the Devil.
Lucifer is a pre-JudeoChristian Roman deity personifying the Morningstar of Phoenician/Canaan cosmology.

He is the Mercury of the Gauls, He is the Serpent of the Ophites, the Kundalini and Budha of the Vedic, the Uræus of the Pharaoh! Lucifer is the Principle of Compassion for Life and Creation, the Light born in the Womb of Darkness . . . defiance of corrupt authority and the Current of Spiritual Evolution. As Prometheus, unlike the Abrahamic savior, He dies every day in order to bring us the Flame.
 
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