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Worshiping Belief

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
For sure. There are so many different and often contradictory beliefs that at least some people -- probably a majority of believers -- are worshiping no more than what they imagine to be true. I can't see how that would not be so.
 

allfoak

Alchemist
Those who believe worship what they imagine and not what they know?
Yes.
It is because they do not understand belief.
Thinking that belief involves things that are not actually believable is rather contradictory and messes with the psyche.
We should never make excuse for our belief.
If it doesn't work then it is to be discarded.
I used to believe that a phone had to be connected to the wall to work.
If i did not discard that belief i would be having some trouble functioning in today's world.
I know some my age who do have trouble functioning in today's world due to ingrained belief.
I am 59 years old and raised in a very racist and ignorant environment.
My son just came out last year as transgender.
Belief affects everything.
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Yes.
It is because they do not understand belief.
Thinking that belief involves things that are not actually believable is rather contradictory and messes with the psyche.
We should never make excuse for our belief.
If it doesn't work then it is to be discarded.
I used to believe that a phone had to be connected to the wall to work.
If i did not discard that belief i would be having some trouble functioning in today's world.
I know some my age who do have trouble functioning in today's world due to ingrained belief.
I am 59 years old and raised in a very racist and ignorant environment.
My son just came out last year as transgender.
Belief affects everything.
I always hold my cell phone against a wall during a call just in case.

I wish they sold handsets with the coiled wire you could hook it up to your usb port...or what ever apple is using. Maybe a rotary dial in the hand set.
 

allfoak

Alchemist
I always hold my cell phone against a wall during a call just in case.

I wish they sold handsets with the coiled wire you could hook it up to your usb port...or what ever apple is using. Maybe a rotary dial in the hand set.
I would guess that that means that you understand the absurdity that is created by holding onto a particular belief beyond its usefulness.
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I would guess that that means that you understand the absurdity that is created by holding onto a particular belief beyond its usefulness.
I understand that topic can be both true and confused with the most confused strawmaned as experts by some whom believe they are not confused. This is a fact.
 

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
Those who believe worship what they imagine and not what they know?


If someone serves you, you will give him a word of thanks
Is a kind of praise, not worship

But who created you and gave you the grace of thinking, movement and making He gave you the hearing, and the eyesight, and the brains

We believe that we must worship God and thank Him until the grace lasts

The gracious is the one who thanks
The scoundrel refuses to thank

This is simply a summary ;)

And for myself I think that God is the organizer of the universe and the Creator and the beginning of existence of everythings
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
If someone serves you, you will give him a word of thanks
Is a kind of praise, not worship

But who created you and gave you the grace of thinking, movement and making He gave you the hearing, and the eyesight, and the brains

We believe that we must worship God and thank Him until the grace lasts

The gracious is the one who thanks
The scoundrel refuses to thank

This is simply a summary ;)

And for myself I think that God is the organizer of the universe and the Creator and the beginning of existence of everythings


You Samaritans worship what you do not know(believe); we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
 

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
You Samaritans worship what you do not know(believe); we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.

My dear brother and beloved and dear
I hope you will be in health and wellness

I thank you for your noble and humane feelings in clarifying the path of salvation for me
I know that it is your white heart that has forced you to say that the path of salvation from the Jews

I am very grateful to you

I believed in the letter of Moses and the writing of the Torah ( Old Testament)
And I saw that Muhammad's prophecy is there and Muhammad's name is present
Therefore, from the depth of Judaism and their testimony
We are believers, and the way of Paradise is also through the teachings of the Qur'an which were revealed to Muhammad
Muhammad who mentioned in bible and I did not invent a story from me

We believe in God; and in what was revealed to us; and in what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs; and in what was given to Moses and Jesus; and in what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we surrender


note:-
this is the what bible said
rophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old testament:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:
"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."
"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem."
In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present.

Prophet Muhammad in the Bible by Dr Naik


If Muhammad is not mentioned so Who is Muhammad?
Regardless of the meaning of the name
Why there are matching names between Muhammad prophet and Muhammad in bible





with respect
GOD bless you
amen
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
My dear brother and beloved and dear
I hope you will be in health and wellness

I thank you for your noble and humane feelings in clarifying the path of salvation for me
I know that it is your white heart that has forced you to say that the path of salvation from the Jews

I am very grateful to you

I believed in the letter of Moses and the writing of the Torah ( Old Testament)
And I saw that Muhammad's prophecy is there and Muhammad's name is present
Therefore, from the depth of Judaism and their testimony
We are believers, and the way of Paradise is also through the teachings of the Qur'an which were revealed to Muhammad
Muhammad who mentioned in bible and I did not invent a story from me

We believe in God; and in what was revealed to us; and in what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs; and in what was given to Moses and Jesus; and in what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we surrender


note:-
this is the what bible said
rophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old testament:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:
"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."
"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem."
In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present.

Prophet Muhammad in the Bible by Dr Naik


If Muhammad is not mentioned so Who is Muhammad?
Regardless of the meaning of the name
Why there are matching names between Muhammad prophet and Muhammad in bible





with respect
GOD bless you
amen


you ignored the statement that was highlighted. you worship what you believe. you don't worship what you should know. salvation is of the praised, glorified, honored.


you are like those who idolized moses, except for you, you idolize muhammed. he was a man and a prophet. pfffft like a fart men come and men go but allahu akbar
 
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