Hawking still making news.. haunting creationism.

[Saint Frankenstein]

Like the tome. Actions are louder than words. It was called work. That is why we exist. Plethora, Island, Hasbro, and even the land of the Lost. Artur was the only Hawkwing. Creator. A round table of carved legs. Hah, if there was ever a big bang it surely blew up before that chariot of a visionary of science walked up to that table. I do not believe in science. I am science. Map tis the boundary of thought.

I'm going to guess you're either schizophrenic or a bot.

 

[pearl]

The trouble with God defying meaningful definition is that to speak of God is not to know what you're talking about.

All we know of God is what we believe his attributes to be. If one thinks one may define God's essence, one does not know what one is talking about.

 

[blü 2]

All we know of God is what we believe his attributes to be. If one thinks one may define God's essence, one does not know what one is talking about.

You get the same result ─ there's no satisfactory definition of 'God' such that if we found a suspected God we could tell whether it were God or not.

Wouldn't all of this strongly support the hypothesis that the only place God is known to exist is in the imagination of individuals?

 

[Shad]

Until there is. Strict non-dualism reconciles contradictions. All this stuff has already been thought about by people smarter than I or you.

This is an assertion and an argument by authority. Merely because people babbled about God, with little regard to modern physics, does not mean they are right.

 

[Dell]

Like the tome. Actions are louder than words. It was called work. That is why we exist. Plethora, Island, Hasbro, and even the land of the Lost. Artur was the only Hawkwing. Creator. A round table of carved legs. Hah, if there was ever a big bang it surely blew up before that chariot of a visionary of science walked up to that table. I do not believe in science. I am science. Map tis the boundary of thought.

Put the bong down dude, go to bed and sleep it off... sheez...

 

[pearl]

Wouldn't all of this strongly support the hypothesis that the only place God is known to exist is in the imagination of individuals?

No. I believe there is an intuitive knowing.

 

[blü 2]

No. I believe there is an intuitive knowing.

And it appears a lot of people agree with you.

Yet none of you is able to say what it is that's intuitively known. At least the axioms of arithmetic, which are also intuitively known, are sharply defined.

It seems that each person has his or her own version of God, and that no one can show (as distinct from assert to) anyone else that they're wrong. Is that a fair comment?

 

[blü 2]

No. I believe there is an intuitive knowing.

And that seems to me to duck the point.

But we each travel our own road. Go well.

 

[pearl]

But we each travel our own road. Go well.

And you as well. There are times when its best to eliminate 'right or wrong' and go with different.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

This is just modern speculative nonsense. Ancient Myths of Creation speaks of an eternal stage of creation in where everything is eternally formed, dissolved and re-formed.

Is there a reason you capitalise 'Ancient Myths'?

 

[Audie]

No. I believe there is an intuitive knowing.

Yes, it is typical of people who do not
want to have to do the hard work of
thinking and studying.

And, those who want to"know" wise things
that nobody can show are wrong.

Withal, pretty silly.

 

[Audie]

Is there a reason you capitalise 'Ancient Myths'?

Usually it is a sign of LEP

(limited English proficiency)

 

[pearl]

Yes, it is typical of people who do not
want to have to do the hard work of
thinking and studying.

Have you never had a gut feeling and trusted your instinct or do you always follow only what you read of another's opinion?

 

[Audie]

Have you never had a gut feeling and trusted your instinct or do you always follow only what you read of another's opinion?

I thought maybe you had something in
mind when you said "intuitive knowing".

You are referring here to something a
horse can do. In fact, they dont ever
seem to read.

 

[Craig Sedok]

Yes, it is typical of people who do not
want to have to do the hard work of
thinking and studying.

How is thinking and studying typical ? Rare as heck nowadays to find those two together.

 

[Audie]

How is thinking and studying typical ? Rare as heck nowadays to find those two together.

Didnt say it is.

 

[Craig Sedok]

Didnt say it is.[/QUOTE}

Ask an angry man why he is angry. One with full hands can only keep some much within his palms. Like

 

[gnostic]

Is there a reason you capitalise 'Ancient Myths'?

Native mixed his New Age interpretations of ancient myths, thereby creating a slightly different woo that’s even more perverted than the original myths. Worse still he think the “Ancient Myths” is the ancient science that’s far superior to modern science.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Native mixed his New Age interpretations of ancient myths, thereby creating a slightly different woo that’s even more perverted than the original myths. Worse still he think the “Ancient Myths” is the ancient science that’s far superior to modern science.

That was kind of my assumption. I used to read a LOT about native Americans, still have a pretty good collection.
Concepts around 'the Noble Savage' romanticised history in a way that was every bit as destructive as the opposite views (denouncing them as subhuman).

Hmm...no, that's not fair. Every bit as destructive in terms of academic accuracy. Less destructive in terms of modern attitudes.

In any case, I prefer uncomplicated reality, hard as that can be to find.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Looks like Steven Hawking's last book "Brief Answers to Big Questions," is gaining some media attention of late.

He writes about the existence of God...

Black holes, like the universe before the Big Bang, condense into a singularity. In this ultra-packed point of mass, gravity is so strong that it distorts time as well as light and space. Simply put, in the depths of a black hole, time does not exist.

Because the universe also began as a singularity, time itself could not have existed before the Big Bang. Hawking's answer, then, to what happened before the Big Bang is, "there was no time before the Big Bang."

"We have finally found something that doesn’t have a cause, because there was no time for a cause to exist in," Hawking wrote. "For me this means that there is no possibility of a creator, because there is no time for a creator to have existed in."

I believe it was Hawking who said that asking what came before the Big Bang was like asking what was South of the South Pole.

Hawking was great Physics. Not so great at theology. God is not a created being. He does not exist within this material universe of space and time. We usually refer to the "there" where he exists as eternity. It has neither location nor time.