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idolatry

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Idolizing the Bible seems to me to be largely an Evangelical and fundamentalist disease. It occurs when the Bible -- or an interpretation of it -- means more to people than their god itself. Such as when someone insists that Genesis must be taken literally and cannot be legitimately interpreted metaphorically. To put it in Christian terms, it's making the law more important than the spirit of the law.
 

LiveByFaithNotSight

The Art Of Conversing
Idolizing the Bible seems to me to be largely an Evangelical and fundamentalist disease. It occurs when the Bible -- or an interpretation of it -- means more to people than their god itself. Such as when someone insists that Genesis must be taken literally and cannot be legitimately interpreted metaphorically. To put it in Christian terms, it's making the law more important than the spirit of the law.

Is Using Scripture to Back up your beliefs idolatry? my definition of idolatry is

IDOLATRY An idol is an image, a representation of anything, or a symbol that is an object of passionate devotion, whether material or imagined. Generally speaking, idolatry is the veneration, love, worship, or adoration of an idol. It is usually practiced toward a real or supposed higher power, whether such power is believed to have animate existence (as a human, an animal, or an organization) or is inanimate (as a force or lifeless object of nature). Idolatry generally involves some form, ceremony, or ritual.The Hebrew terms used to refer to idols often highlighted the origin and inherent worthlessness of idols, or they were derogatory terms of contempt. Among these are words rendered “carved or graven image” (literally, something carved out); “molten statue, image, or idol” (literally, something cast or poured out); “horrible idol”; “vain idol” (literally, vanity); and “dungy idol.” “Idol” is the usual rendering of the Greek word eiʹdo·lon
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
What forms of Idolatry can Christians perform without even noticing???

Not to change the subject. Idololyzing jesus christ as god and not the son of god. Idolizing a human being.

I agree with sunstone, the bible is highly seen more as god than the Word or Christ and God the creator himself. Mistaking christs himelf for words not spoken by him.

Worshiping the act of human sacrifice; the literal beating, killing, and resurrection of christ instead of living the passion themselves worshiping the spirit of the Passion and not objectify the spirit through the "death" of the flesh.

Idolizing their own interpretation as if it were gods voice.
 

LiveByFaithNotSight

The Art Of Conversing
Idolizing the Bible seems to me to be largely an Evangelical and fundamentalist disease. It occurs when the Bible -- or an interpretation of it -- means more to people than their god itself. Such as when someone insists that Genesis must be taken literally and cannot be legitimately interpreted metaphorically. To put it in Christian terms, it's making the law more important than the spirit of the law.
if the Source of the Bible or the Author of the Bible is God can It be considered Idolatry? considering the definition I gave ?
 

LiveByFaithNotSight

The Art Of Conversing
Not to change the subject. Idololyzing jesus christ as god and not the son of god. Idolizing a human being.

I agree with sunstone, the bible is highly seen more as god than the Word or Christ and God the creator himself. Mistaking christs himelf for words not spoken by him.

Worshiping the act of human sacrifice; the literal beating, killing, and resurrection of christ instead of living the passion themselves worshiping the spirit not the flesh.

Idolizing their own interpretation as if it were gods voice.
I agree Worshipping Jesus is Idolatry see that he isn't God but is the Son. scripture is inline with that thought
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
if the Source of the Bible or the Author of the Bible is God can It be considered Idolatry? considering the definition I gave ?

To me, idolatry is the substitution of an object or thing that is not god for god. So, for example, to substitute the Bible for the god of the Bible would be idolatry. In practice, one of the first steps in that substitution is to consider the Bible the actual word of God.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Is Using Scripture to Back up your beliefs idolatry? my definition of idolatry is

IDOLATRY An idol is an image, a representation of anything, or a symbol that is an object of passionate devotion, whether material or imagined. Generally speaking, idolatry is the veneration, love, worship, or adoration of an idol. It is usually practiced toward a real or supposed higher power, whether such power is believed to have animate existence (as a human, an animal, or an organization) or is inanimate (as a force or lifeless object of nature). Idolatry generally involves some form, ceremony, or ritual.The Hebrew terms used to refer to idols often highlighted the origin and inherent worthlessness of idols, or they were derogatory terms of contempt. Among these are words rendered “carved or graven image” (literally, something carved out); “molten statue, image, or idol” (literally, something cast or poured out); “horrible idol”; “vain idol” (literally, vanity); and “dungy idol.” “Idol” is the usual rendering of the Greek word eiʹdo·lon

Meaning using the bible as gods word not christ himself.

Idolozing christ words as Christ himself and not the holy spirit thruogh which speaks to him and believers from god

Idolizing interpretations as if it were god

Worshiping the words as the Word and worshiping the Word as the creator. Idolozing words to speak for the Word. Idolozing the Word who speaks for the creator and not the creator who sent the Word.
 

LiveByFaithNotSight

The Art Of Conversing
To me, idolatry is the substitution of an object or thing that is not god for god. So, for example, to substitute the Bible for the god of the Bible would be idolatry. In practice, one of the first steps in that substitution is to consider the Bible the actual word of God.
we had two different views of what idolatry is then. mines is much different to yours. if I agree with your definition then your right but my definition is different it's based on scripture which is idolatry to you lol but I respect your reasoning forsure.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
we had two different views of what idolatry is then. mines is much different to yours. if I agree with your definition then your right but my definition is different it's based on scripture which is idolatry to you lol but I respect your reasoning forsure.

To be sure, scripture is not idolatry to me. Only how it is sometimes taken.
 

LiveByFaithNotSight

The Art Of Conversing
Meaning using the bible as gods word not christ himself.

Idolozing christ words as Christ himself and not the holy spirit thruogh which speaks to him and believers from god

Idolizing interpretations as if it were god

Worshiping the words as the Word and worshiping the Word as the creator. Idolozing words to speak for the Word. Idolozing the Word who speaks for the creator and not the creator who sent the Word.


we won't find common ground because my thinking is in harmony with 2 Timothy 3:16,17

"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work."

based on this script on not committing idolatry but simply using Gods word for its proper use according to scripture.
 

LiveByFaithNotSight

The Art Of Conversing
To be sure, scripture is not idolatry to me. Only how it is sometimes taken.


I certain respect that heavy and agree that ppl twist scripture to teach idolatry when the scripture does not teach that. for example the Trinity. I believe its idolatry to Worship Jesus based on The Trinity doctrine based on the scripture dont teach Jesus is God
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
we won't find common ground because my thinking is in harmony with 2 Timothy 3:16,17

"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work."

based on this script on not committing idolatry but simply using Gods word for its proper use according to scripture.

If this were true, you can quote from Christian source and it would be find. Another if this were true, you would not have a special attention to it as a foundational source for truth. Since you feel the bible is gods word, that alone idolizing it because gods word is a person not his apostles words.

Scripture, by its name, is a idol.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
What forms of Idolatry can Christians perform without even noticing???
Interesting question.

I've always thought the idea that anyone would actually worship an object particularly ridiculous. For example in the golden calf episode, the point was surely that the people were worshipping another god, represented by the statue of the calf that they had made. They were not worshipping the man-made object they had themselves made - that would be too silly for words.

So the use of statues, pictures or music as an aid to devotion is clearly not idolatry. Those Puritans who smashed the stained glass in mediaeval cathedrals were thoughtless idiots.

I suppose it becomes possible to worship another human being, if one is in the throes of infatuation, for example, or under the influence of brainwashing in the personality cult of a totalitarian regime. Some people say that money can be worshipped. I'm doubtful about this. People can get greedily preoccupied with money of course, but I don't think that qualifies as worship.

My initial thoughts, anyway.
 
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