• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

I'm sorry. But I'm likely to do the same thing again.

Have you made the same mistakes, apologized felt genuinely sorry, then repeated the mistake?

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 69.2%
  • No

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • I tried not to make a mistake after apoligizing for it, then made the same mistake again

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • I don't make mistakes

    Votes: 2 15.4%

  • Total voters
    13

Spiderman

Veteran Member
One thing I am at RF is the last person on this forum to tell you a lie.

So, why do I say I'm sorry for something like Blaspheming God or stirring up hate for Islam, then apologizing, then doing the same thing? Isn't that a sign of dishonesty?

No! It's a change of heart. I love Muslims. However, I don't like the Qur'an, Hadiths, or Sharia law. I practice Salat and I make sacrifices on Ramadan. I love mosques and love to pray with Muslims more than go to Church. I pray on my face more than five times a day. I have a kufi (Prayer cap) and turban given to me by a Somali Muslim I would pray with and do Qur'an studies with. Islam means "Surrender/submit to God". That's what I try to do.

So, when I say I despise Islam, I'm being honest. When I say I love Muslims, I'm being honest. Sometimes I feel bad about the negative things I say about Islam. So, I apologize and mean it. It is a change of heart. Then, I see a Muslim diss another faith and argue that theirs is the truth, and I start attacking Islam. I make some mistakes in the process and sometimes apologize again.

It isn't dishonesty. It is a change of heart. I am a sinner and I make mistakes. One thing I'm consistent about is that the Qur'an has some psychopathic verses. So does the Bible. I despise them both (but both have good verses too). However, Jesus was not like Muhammad. He didn't recruit a military to kill for him. He taught people "love your enemies, let the one without sin cast the first stone, turn the other cheek", and Jesus forgave the people who crucified him.

Muhammad did and taught the opposite. So, as much as "Bible Christians" drive me nuts, I will always prefer Christianity over Islam for those reasons. I see predominately Christian countries have really gotten with the 21st century and many Muslims want to live like we are still in the barbaric Old Testament times or the dark-ages.

I'm not saying Christians haven't done just as many bad things, but the founder of Christianity is who Christians are supposed to imitate, and he loved his enemies.

Once again, my point being, there is much in Islam that I despise with every fiber of my being. There is much in Islam I find beautiful. There is much I find repulsive in the Bible. I'm consistent in my views as far as that goes. Where I'm not consistent is the emotions I have regarding God and sacred texts attributed to him. Sometimes I feel genuinely guilty about insulting the faith of humble, kind, meek people.

So, those feelings of guilt lead me to say, "Sorry". I blasphemed God worse this week than I have done in years. I'm not just talking about online. I blasphemed and yelled at an evangelical Christian and at an AA meeting. I genuinely regret it and apologized.

So, I'm 100% honest at RF. I don't have a lot of good qualities. One thing I am is honest and transparent. That is one of the only things I am consistently good at, even to a fault! But I make lots of mistakes and have mood swings where I say things that I regret. So, I say sorry, knowing I will likely make similar mistakes in the future. I hope you understand. A lot of people tell God they are sorry and keep committing the same sins. Can you relate?

Any thoughts?
 

Regiomontanus

Ματαιοδοξία ματαιοδοξιών! Όλα είναι ματαιοδοξία.
One thing I am at RF is the last person on this forum to tell you a lie.

So, why do I say I'm sorry for something like Blaspheming God or stirring up hate for Islam, then apologizing, then doing the same thing? Isn't that a sign of dishonesty?

No! It's a change of heart. I love Muslims. However, I don't like the Qur'an, Hadiths, or Sharia law. I practice Salat and I make sacrifices on Ramadan. I love mosques and love to pray with Muslims more than go to Church. I pray on my face more than five times a day. I have a kufi (Prayer cap) and turban given to me by a Somali Muslim I would pray with and do Qur'an studies with. Islam means "Surrender/submit to God". That's what I try to do.

So, when I say I despise Islam, I'm being honest. When I say I love Muslims, I'm being honest. Sometimes I feel bad about the negative things I say about Islam. So, I apologize and mean it. It is a change of heart. Then, I see a Muslim diss another faith and argue that theirs is the truth, and I start attacking Islam. I make some mistakes in the process and sometimes apologize again.

It isn't dishonesty. It is a change of heart. I am a sinner and I make mistakes. One thing I'm consistent about is that the Qur'an has some psychopathic verses. So does the Bible. I despise them both (but both have good verses too). However, Jesus was not like Muhammad. He didn't recruit a military to kill for him. He taught people "love your enemies, let the one without sin cast the first stone, turn the other cheek", and Jesus forgave the people who crucified him.

Muhammad did and taught the opposite. So, as much as "Bible Christians" drive me nuts, I will always prefer Christianity over Islam for those reasons. I see predominately Christian countries have really gotten with the 21st century and many Muslims want to live like we are still in the barbaric Old Testament times or the dark-ages.

I'm not saying Christians haven't done just as many bad things, but the founder of Christianity is who Christians are supposed to imitate, and he loved his enemies.

Once again, my point being, there is much in Islam that I despise with every fiber of my being. There is much in Islam I find beautiful. There is much I find repulsive in the Bible. I'm consistent in my views as far as that goes. Where I'm not consistent is the emotions I have regarding God and sacred texts attributed to him. Sometimes I feel genuinely guilty about insulting the faith of humble, kind, meek people.

So, those feelings of guilt lead me to say, "Sorry". I blasphemed God worse this week than I have done in years. I'm not just talking about online. I blasphemed and yelled at an evangelical Christian and at an AA meeting. I genuinely regret it and apologized.

So, I'm 100% honest at RF. I don't have a lot of good qualities. One thing I am is honest and transparent. That is one of the only things I am consistently good at, even to a fault! But I make lots of mistakes and have mood swings where I say things that I regret. So, I say sorry, knowing I will likely make similar mistakes in the future. I hope you understand. A lot of people tell God they are sorry and keep committing the same sins. Can you relate?

Any thoughts?

My thought brother is that you sound like one tortured soul. I hope you can find some peace but I can't imagine you will do so by posting here the way you do. Hopefully I am wrong.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I thought I had erred ...once..... long ago

but I was mistaken

heheheheh
sorry.....it was there
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
but more to topic......

sorting out the errors.....will prove a life time effort

if your belief at this moment leads you to harm another......
there will be a consequence
perhaps not immediate
and perhaps you might never realize what followed.....until much later

deception is that sort of item
first you get the wrong idea in your head
you teach it to someone else
years later you drop the practice having seen the fault

and the other guy went on to be a real jerk

your fault?
and what will God and heaven need to do about it?

picture this....
I stand before Something Greater and They want to know
what do you believe?
my response will pivot my future and fate

I tell what They ask.....and They take sword in hand
the error must be stopped.....right now

but not before asking WHO told you such things?

then they go looking for .....you
 
Last edited:

Spiderman

Veteran Member
but more to topic......

sorting out the errors.....will prove a life time effort

if your belief at this moment leads you harm another......
there will be a consequence
perhaps not immediate
and perhaps you might never realize what followed

deception is that sort of item
first you get the wrong idea in your head
you teach it to someone else
years later you drop the practice having seen the fault

and the other guy went on to be a real jerk

your fault?
and what will God and heaven need to do about it?

picture this....
I stand before Something Greater and They want to know
what do you believe?
my response will pivot my future and fate

I tell what They ask.....and They take sword in hand
the error must be stopped.....right now

but not before asking WHO told you such things?

then they go looking for .....you
Is that a poem?
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
Have you made the same mistakes, apologized felt genuinely sorry, then repeated the mistake?

That's a resounding yes. It's in my genes. Seriously... my DNA reports show a gene variant that predisposes me to not learning from my mistakes and making them over and over again.

rs1800497(T;T)
Magnitude: 4
Frequency: 5.3%
Repute:Bad
References:110
A1/A1: Bad at avoidance of errors. 0.25x lower OCD; 0.56x lower Tardive Diskinesia; higher ADHD; 1.4x Alcohol Dependence; lower Postoperative Nausea; Increased obesity; less pleasure response; Bupropion ineffective; 2.4x risk for adenoma recurrence. The DRD2 TaqIA A1/A1 version causes less dopamine receptors. Doesn't learn from mistakes well. Men have 0.25x reduced risk of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder but higher risk of ADHD. Women have lower Persistence. 0.56x reduced risk of Tardive Diskinesia when taking dopamine receptor antagonists. Slightly increased risk of alcoholism and smoking addiction. Slower recovery from traumatic brain injury. Lower risk of postoperative nausea within 6 hours of surgery. Bupropion (Wellbutrin, Budeprion, Prexaton, Elontril, Aplenzin, Zyban, Voxra) doesn't ...
(hide)
rs1800497, a SNP also known as the TaqIA (or Taq1A) polymorphism of the dopamine D2 receptor DRD2 gene (even though it is actually located over 10,000bp downstream of the gene), gives rise to the DRD2*A1 allele. This allele (rs1800497(T)) is associated with a reduced number of dopamine binding sites in the brain . Reduced response to errors and increased addictive behavior It has been postulated to play a role in alcoholism, smoking, and certain neuropsychiatric disorders. The reduced number of dopamine binding sites may play a role in nicotine addiction by causing an 'understimulated' state that can be relieved by smoking (and/or use of other drugs). A wide variety of reports have been published over more than ten years either linking rs1800497 to aspects of nicotine use and smoking cessa...

I'm not alcoholic nor do I become addicted to drugs. I'm dependent on my percocet for my pain from back surgery, but I don't take more than I absolutely need, nor jones for a dose. However, I tend towards OCPD.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Any thoughts?

When people say they want honesty, they are usually lying.

What most prefer is for you to tell them what they want to hear. That doesn't mean they don't love to catch you in a lie so they can assume moral superiority. Especially when you are telling them something they don't want to hear.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
When people say they want honesty, they are usually lying.

What most prefer is for you to tell them what they want to hear. That doesn't mean they don't love to catch you in a lie so they can assume moral superiority. Especially when you are telling them something they don't want to hear.
I want to be honest cuz it saves me and others a lot of grief.

I didn't used to be honest. I am now.
 
Top