Why learn about other faiths?

[Trailblazer]

Homeopathy is not effective for treating any health condition, Australia’s top body for medical research has concluded, after undertaking an extensive review of existing studies.

Homeopathy not effective for treating any condition, Australian report finds

One study does not prove anything. I am sure there are studies that prove the efficacy of homeopathy, but I do not have time to go looking for them now.

Conventional medicine is useful and necessary for a variety of medical conditions and I am not suggesting people should put off conventional medicine in favor of homeopathy. My husband has severe asthma and his homeopathic doctors prescribed conventional drugs for his condition since it was not curable by homeopathy. My doctors also prescribed thyroid medication for me.Most homeopaths are not fanatics. Homeopaths with no medical training should not be treating physical conditions, but they can treat psychological conditions, because homeopathic remedies can do no harm. They either work or not. If they do not work then another remedy is used until one is found that works. If nothing works then they can always use conventional medicine.

Conventional medicine falls flat on its face when it comes to treating psychological disorders. All the psychotropic drugs do is mask the symptoms driving the disease deeper. Some of these drugs are extremely dangerous to one’s overall health and have long-term consequences, not to mention the immediate side effects.

But most importantly, psychotropic drugs do not “cure” any psychological disorders. If they did, people would be able to take an antidepressant for a short period of time and then get off of it. But what happens is as soon as they go off of I the drug, the depression returns, sometimes worse than it was before. This is proof positive that the drug was “masking” the symptoms. Moreover, these drugs are dangerous when used for many years, not only physically but also psychologically, because they prevent people from inner healing since they do not cure the issues that caused the depression in the first place. By contrast, homeopathic remedies can permanently cure depression and other psychological disorders with no side effects whatsoever and they help people resolve the psychological issues that caused the disorders, just as counseling would do.

Frankly, there is big money in the drug industry so the medical establishment has a good reason to repress any studies that could prove that homeopathy is efficacious.

Ignorance and fraud. The homeopathic lobby has been very effective at exempting homeopathy from the normal checks and controls that actual medicine goes through.

There is nothing to check because there is nothing dangerous about any homeopathic medicines. It either works or it does not.

Among many members of the public and lawmakers, there's also a fair bit of confusion about what homeopathy is; plenty of people confuse it with naturopathy.

I know that most people do not know the difference. Homeopathy is much more efficacious than any naturopathic treatments. Naturopathic treatments operate on the same principle as conventional medicine. They act on the physical body. The only difference is that they are “natural.” By contrast, homeopathy acts on the vital force of the person and stimulates the body to heal itself. Masking symptoms with drugs might keep people alive, but it does not cure anything. It it did, they would only need the drugs for a limited time, but that is not the case. Most people stay on prescription drugs indefinitely.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

One study does not prove anything. I am sure there are studies that prove the efficacy of homeopathy, but I do not have time to go looking for them now.

Conventional medicine is useful and necessary for a variety of medical conditions and I am not suggesting people should put off conventional medicine in favor of homeopathy. My husband has severe asthma and his homeopathic doctors prescribed conventional drugs for his condition since it was not curable by homeopathy. My doctors also prescribed thyroid medication for me.Most homeopaths are not fanatics. Homeopaths with no medical training should not be treating physical conditions, but they can treat psychological conditions, because homeopathic remedies can do no harm. They either work or not. If they do not work then another remedy is used until one is found that works. If nothing works then they can always use conventional medicine.

Conventional medicine falls flat on its face when it comes to treating psychological disorders. All the psychotropic drugs do is mask the symptoms driving the disease deeper. Some of these drugs are extremely dangerous to one’s overall health and have long-term consequences, not to mention the immediate side effects.

But most importantly, psychotropic drugs do not “cure” any psychological disorders. If they did, people would be able to take an antidepressant for a short period of time and then get off of it. But what happens is as soon as they go off of I the drug, the depression returns, sometimes worse than it was before. This is proof positive that the drug was “masking” the symptoms. Moreover, these drugs are dangerous when used for many years, not only physically but also psychologically, because they prevent people from inner healing since they do not cure the issues that caused the depression in the first place. By contrast, homeopathic remedies can permanently cure depression and other psychological disorders with no side effects whatsoever and they help people resolve the psychological issues that caused the disorders, just as counseling would do.

Frankly, there is big money in the drug industry so the medical establishment has a good reason to repress any studies that could prove that homeopathy is efficacious.

There is nothing to check because there is nothing dangerous about any homeopathic medicines. It either works or it does not.

I know that most people do not know the difference. Homeopathy is much more efficacious than any naturopathic treatments. Naturopathic treatments operate on the same principle as conventional medicine. They act on the physical body. The only difference is that they are “natural.” By contrast, homeopathy acts on the vital force of the person and stimulates the body to heal itself. Masking symptoms with drugs might keep people alive, but it does not cure anything. It it did, they would only need the drugs for a limited time, but that is not the case. Most people stay on prescription drugs indefinitely.

Can I make a new thread instead of pulling this one off track?

 

[Trailblazer]

Can I make a new thread instead of pulling this one off track?

Go ahead. Let me know what you call it and where it is. Hopefully I will have some time to respond since the weekend is coming and I do not have as many posts to answer as I usually do.

 

[dianaiad]

To those who voted 'not at all, ' 'marginally,' and 'waste of time,' I say....that's a bit egocentric, don't you think?

After all, by figuring that there is little to no value in learning about other faiths, you are saying:

a. YOUR beliefs and culture are not important and not worth examining.
b. MY beliefs are the only ones that count.
c. I am better than you, more intelligent than you, more....everything...than you.

And I have news. Nobody on this planet can say that to everybody else. Every belief system, every culture, has something important to teach to others....even you guys who don't think other belief systems are worth looking at.

 

[Trailblazer]

To those who voted 'not at all, ' 'marginally,' and 'waste of time,' I say....that's a bit egocentric, don't you think?

After all, by figuring that there is little to no value in learning about other faiths, you are saying:

a. YOUR beliefs and culture are not important and not worth examining.
b. MY beliefs are the only ones that count.
c. I am better than you, more intelligent than you, more....everything...than you.

And I have news. Nobody on this planet can say that to everybody else. Every belief system, every culture, has something important to teach to others....even you guys who don't think other belief systems are worth looking at.

Maybe the marginals are interested but we just do not have enough time.
Ever think of that?

 

[danieldemol]

Conventional medicine falls flat on its face when it comes to treating psychological disorders.

As one who has benefited greatly from medicine for a psychiatric disorder I strongly disagree.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

To those who voted 'not at all, ' 'marginally,' and 'waste of time,' I say....that's a bit egocentric, don't you think?

After all, by figuring that there is little to no value in learning about other faiths, you are saying:

a. YOUR beliefs and culture are not important and not worth examining.
b. MY beliefs are the only ones that count.
c. I am better than you, more intelligent than you, more....everything...than you.

And I have news. Nobody on this planet can say that to everybody else. Every belief system, every culture, has something important to teach to others....even you guys who don't think other belief systems are worth looking at.

Religion < > culture.

If someone really is keen to learn about other cultures, why would learning about other religions be the best use of their time as opposed to, say, learning a new language?

Edit: ... or what learning how to cook the cuisine from other cultures? Or traditional dance? I developed an appreciation of Japanese culture and history through martial arts.

 

[iam1me]

Oh right, everything them cons say is false.

Honestly, people in America!

Some in the conservative party have integrity - John Mccain had integrity. Most of them are simply willfully ignorant.

 

[Audie]

Some in the conservative party have integrity - John Mccain had integrity. Most of them are simply willfully ignorant.

There are only two types of cons, as you say.
Libs are a bit more complex. There are three types.
Most are communists.
The rest are morally weak, or, simply insane.

 

[Audie]

As one who has benefited greatly from medicine for a psychiatric disorder I strongly disagree.

Um with what are you disagreeing with?

 

[Audie]

Recognizing that capitalism is flawed, and that it's primary flaw is its greed, is in fact very productive. The first step to solving a problem is to recognize that you have one.

Counter productive is to come up with a vapid slogan
like that and promote it as some basic truth.

 

[iam1me]

So socialism isn’t flawed?

There are many different forms of socialism - some of them (like communism) are very flawed, while others have led to much healthier, happier people who are educated and are not drowning in debt - as with America. At its heart though, socialism is about distributing the wealth of society so that everyone's needs are met - and there is nothing flawed with this.

With capitalism, however, the philosophy is fundamentally flawed and evil. Thus no implementation of it can address the core problem: greed.

Relating this back to the OP question and learning about other faiths, what does your faith say about capitalism and socialism? Don’t some Christians prefer capitalism to socialism?

Yes, we did get a bit off track. The teachings of Christ go hand-n-hand with socialism: if you are able, share what you have so that we can take care of those without. You cannot serve money and God. Greed is the root of many evils. etc.

Many Christians in America prefer capitalism - but these are the same "Christians" that blindly support Trump, and even treat him as a kind of holy man (ha!). This is nothing more than indoctrination, they are in complete contradiction with the scriptures.

 

[iam1me]

Counter productive is to come up with a vapid slogan
like that and promote it as some basic truth.

It is a basic truth. Go do some studying.

 

[iam1me]

There are only two types of cons, as you say.
Libs are a bit more complex. There are three types.
Most are communists.
The rest are morally weak, or, simply insane.

Equating anything socialism to communism is another common lie of the conservatives. Fortunately a new generation that didn't grow up with the propaganda of the Red Scare is coming into its own - and they aren't buying the non-sense.

 

[Audie]

Equating anything socialism to communism is another common lie of the conservatives. Fortunately a new generation that didn't grow up with the propaganda of the Red Scare is coming into its own - and they aren't buying the non-sense.

Equating anything socialism to communism is another common lie

Why, yes, it is; a liberal lie about their fellow citizens.

Red scare? It is not what it was, it changes. The
country still has implacable enemies. Only an
idiot of some sort would fail to notice that.

Perhaps if you grew up in Hong Kong, and had
relatives who were deeply involved in the mao
thing, you would understand that the "Red scare"
was not exactly "propaganda", or false.

Then too, Stalin and Krusshchev were not exadtly
jokers, either.

But never mind that. That was not even what I was
talking about, You are too into your ideology
to see what i was getting at, at all.

Here it is again:

Oh right, everything them cons say is false.

Honestly, people in America!

Does not the above succinctly state your position
toward half of your fellow citizens?

How could you?

If there is a new generation not buying nonsense, you
sure are not a part of it, having bought, swallowed, and
made your own the absurd propaganda of the liberals.

 

[Audie]

It is a basic truth. Go do some studying.

Right, I dont agree with your nonsense, so I must
be uneducated.

Could you define "greed" for me? Where you put
"capitalism" on the sliding scale of greed-intensity?

Rapacious, unconscionable lust? Eager enthusiasm?

Do you have in mind some other economic system that
could have done this, or some motive other than
"enlightened self interest" that could do it?

Picture of the Day: The Hong Kong Skyline at Night

 

[iam1me]

Equating anything socialism to communism is another common lie

Why, yes, it is; a liberal lie about their fellow citizens.

Red scare? It is not what it was, it changes. The
country still has implacable enemies. Only an
idiot of some sort would fail to notice that.

Perhaps if you grew up in Hong Kong, and had
relatives who were deeply involved in the mao
thing, you would understand that the "Red scare"
was not exactly "propaganda", or false.

Then too, Stalin and Krusshchev were not exadtly
jokers, either.

But never mind that. That was not even what I was
talking about, You are too into your ideology
to see what i was getting at, at all.

Here it is again:

Oh right, everything them cons say is false.

Honestly, people in America!

Does not the above succinctly state your position
toward half of your fellow citizens?

How could you?

If there is a new generation not buying nonsense, you
sure are not a part of it, having bought, swallowed, and
made your own the absurd propaganda of the liberals.

Wow you are indoctrinated.

 

[iam1me]

Right, I dont agree with your nonsense, so I must
be uneducated.

Could you define "greed" for me? Where you put
"capitalism" on the sliding scale of greed-intensity?

Rapacious, unconscionable lust? Eager enthusiasm?

Do you have in mind some other economic system that
could have done this, or some motive other than
"enlightened self interest" that could do it?

Picture of the Day: The Hong Kong Skyline at Night

If you don't acknowledge that Capitalism teaches and encourages greed you are simply ignorant. Go do some research. The proponents of Capitalism won't deny it - to the contrary, they regularly try to defend greed as good.

 

[Trailblazer]

As one who has benefited greatly from medicine for a psychiatric disorder I strongly disagree.

That just shows that it is never good to make generalizations.... On the other hand, many people "think" they have benefited, but that is because it makes them "feel better" temporarily or permanently, if they stay on the medications. But is feeling better a solution? My point was that psychotropic drugs do not cure the underlying diseases. Sometimes they help people get through a crisis in their lives such as a divorce or death of a loved one, and that is their best usage, Imo.

This is a big subject, one that we will be talking about on the homeopathy thread so as not to derail this thread.

 

[Audie]

If you don't acknowledge that Capitalism teaches and encourages greed you are simply ignorant. Go do some research. The proponents of Capitalism won't deny it - to the contrary, they regularly try to defend greed as good.

Research? My family is heavily involved in creating that
skyline. WTF do you actually about "capitalism",
from the inside?
Nothing.

In the event, never mind, as you are unwilling / unable
to address any question, or even say what you actually
mean by "greed", preferring instead to make up faults in me.