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Why Does God Hate Sex?

Brickjectivity

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Excerpted from an interesting blog by Steve Mason in the Huffington Post


"Sex is funny in that you can live without it, but not without paying a mental/physical price. It’s a simple pleasure that grows all out of proportion when it’s denied. If Mother Nature were allowed to have her way, this would be a far better place. And who’s behind all the brouhaha? God? Actually, it’s religion.

In order to run a successful religion, you need to follow just one rule: Have more members coming in than going out. One way to achieve this is by gaining control of their sex lives. Try to think of a religion that doesn’t have anything to say about sex. Get a grip on that one single, chemically driven aspect of life and you will have a stranglehold on your flock. The more they try to avoid it, the more they’re going to be drawn to it, and the more they’re going to feel like sinners, and the more they’re going to need you to save them. Tell people sucking lemons is evil and they won’t suck lemons and they won’t need you. Tell people sex is evil and you’ll have them stuck in a revolving door.

Now here’s the rub and the real reason I get so provoked by people who have been bamboozled into believing that copulation without at least 50 strings attached is anything but normal human behavior. The truth is that violence seems to be inversely proportional to the availability of sex. Remember generations of coaches who told the team to avoid love so they’d be full of hate for the big game? Look at riots in the street and what do you see? Mostly young, testosterone-filled males throwing bricks. Look at guys flying planes into buildings. Would they do it if it weren’t for the 79 virgins? And why do you suppose there’s such a premium on virgins? The male’s lack of experience leads to a lack of confidence, and that, in turn, leads to a raging fury against experience and confidence — so let’s find someone with neither. The weird part is that so many terrorists truly believe America is swimming in sex. If they only knew that it gets so much attention only because there’s so little action.

British comedian Eddie Izzard does a very funny and very insightful routine that involves God laying down the laws of mating. The dogs are told to do it doggie-style. The dogs go away happy. The cats are also told to do it doggie-style. The cats aren’t really happy about that, but when are cats really happy about anything? The salmon are told about swimming upstream, struggling over dams and crashing into rocks only to die at the end. Bummer. And finally, the humans are told they can do it pretty much anyway they like — as long as they feel guilty. So I get comments from obviously guilty readers telling me how scary sex really is and providing laundry lists of things that can go wrong while rolling in the hay. That God ever invented sex in the first place was clearly a mistake, so they create caveats that will at least make it as unpleasant as possible.

However, if anything, it’s a lack of sex that can be deadly. The British Medical Journal reported on a long-term study of nearly 1,000 men between the ages of 45 and 59. In our culture of scary sex, it’s perhaps not too surprising that the findings have not received the attention they deserve. You see, the data showed that the amount of sexual activity enjoyed by a man is directly proportional to both his health and longevity. Men who reported twice as much sex were half as likely to die prematurely.
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Thoughts?

Mine is a question. If god's attitude toward sex is truly not a concoction of religious leaders, but his very own, then what is his problem with it? According to the Bible god doesn't like prostitutes, homosexuality, bestiality, consensual adultery (all adultery is bad), marrying a divorced woman, premarital sex, lust, sensuality, semen, etc. etc..

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It is both a chemical dependency and a threadbare means of cheating death. That doesn't mean God would hate it necessarily, but only an addict views it as something special. The trouble is that addicts control most of the information about it and the government. They even control this web site (probably). So are you and addict or a true independent voice? Thought so.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Here's a thought, is advocating for moderation the same thing as hating a thing??
Nope.

If you bring up the health risks of obesity and promote eating in moderation, no one makes the absurd claim that you "hate food". But if you bring up the idea of sexuality in moderation, oh then you hate sex.
But calling something an abomination, a sin great enough to keep one out of heaven, and worthy of killing is not moderation.

Well, from an social evolutionary perspective, if you think all adultery isn't bad, then why has almost every human society decided, often independent of one another, that adultery is bad??
Argumentum ad populum and a straw man.

If you don't think adultery is a bad thing, you must give your alternative explanation for why almost every human society disagrees with you, and why they each developed that same idea independent of one another.
Did I say all adultery isn't bad?


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Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Fine, people would realize that having homosexual sex is detrimental to their health and would hopefully discontinue it, but on top of this looming outcome god sees fit to add to their misery by keeping people from heaven and having them killed. It's like throwing gasoline on a burning house.

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???

So, when you kiss pigs and get swine flu, it's God's fault.

Strange way of looking at things.

Or if you have sex with animals and contract diseases... it's God's fault?

Strange logic.
 

Trailblazer

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Mine is a question. If god's attitude toward sex is truly not a concoction of religious leaders, but his very own, then what is his problem with it? According to the Bible god doesn't like prostitutes, homosexuality, bestiality, consensual adultery (all adultery is bad), marrying a divorced woman, premarital sex, lust, sensuality, semen, etc. etc...
God does not have a "problem" with sex in its proper context, which is marriage.
Humans want to take sex out of its proper context, which is like pouring gasoline all over the driveway and then lighting a match, instead of putting the gasoline where it belongs, in the gas tank.

An Omniscient God knows more than any human, so an Omniscient God knows the proper use of the sex instinct, which is in marriage. :rolleyes:
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
OK... Yes, that is socialism. Not sure what they taught you about Jesus as I am no privy to that info.

Compassion does the same thing but isn't socialism because it isn't done by taxing... Without obligation (taxing) Zacchaeous gave half his money to the poor. Jesus didn't require him to give more nor did he say "do it next year".

The commandment is simply "don't forget the poor".

The problem with taxes, IMO, is that those who have more simply say "I've already paid my taxes so forget the poor" which isn't what Jesus said.
But without tax, how do you have hospitals free for all, schools free for all, good roads, police, army, fire...you get my drift.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
God does not have a "problem" with sex in its proper context, which is marriage.
Humans want to take sex out of its proper context, which is like pouring gasoline all over the driveway and then lighting a match, instead of putting the gasoline where it belongs, in the gas tank.

An Omniscient God knows more than any human, so an Omniscient God knows the proper use of the sex instinct, which is in marriage. :rolleyes:
Most of my friends are not married; in long time relationships, most with children but not married. Good job they are not religious then.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
But without tax, how do you have hospitals free for all, schools free for all, good roads, police, army, fire...you get my drift.
the way Christians use to do it (and many still do). The rich create hospitals and churches taught children.

PS. Jesus wasn't against taxes either. He just wasn't a socialist. He was a manifestation of compassion.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
???

So, when you kiss pigs and get swine flu, it's God's fault.

Strange way of looking at things.

Or if you have sex with animals and contract diseases... it's God's fault?

Strange logic.
Don't you know, everything is God's fault, because God is Omnipotent?
Shame on you Ken for not knowing this.... :rolleyes:

Don't you know, humans never make any mistakes...
Problem is, humans are fallible and God is Infallible, kind of hard to get around that one and call yourself logical... :rolleyes:

The other problem is that humans are not Omniscient so humans cannot know more than an Omniscient God... :rolleyes:

The funniest thing is that atheists pride themselves in being logical but they do not understand the most basic logic. :D
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
A better question might be -- why do people love sex more than God such that they are willing to break all commandments in order to have it?
A lot of people don't buy into the Ten Commandments, plus, a lot of people don't believe in god, particularly the Christian god. And it's pretty reasonable that those Christians who do love god, but don't go along with his hatred of sex, indulge themselves in it. :shrug:

I know if I loved god, but found some of his positions to be asinine, that I'd ignore them. Wouldn't you?

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Trailblazer

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Most of my friends are not married; in long time relationships, most with children but not married. Good job they are not religious then.
According to my religion, if they are not a Baha'i they are not subject to Baha'i Laws.
I cannot say how other religions handle that...
Atheists do not believe God exists so why would they follow God's Laws?
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
the way Christians use to do it (and many still do). The rich create hospitals and churches taught children.

PS. Jesus wasn't against taxes either. He just wasn't a socialist. He was a manifestation of compassion.
Religious schools and hospitals come with too much baggage

Google Savita Halappanavar for problems with Catholic health care
You just have to look a US private schools teaching religion instead of science
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
A lot of people don't buy into the Ten Commandments, plus, a lot of people don't believe in god, particularly the Christian god. And it's pretty reasonable that those Christians who do love god, but don't go along with his hatred of sex, indulge themselves in it. :shrug:

I know if I loved god, but found some of his positions to be asinine, that I'd ignore them. Wouldn't you?

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Then again, some believe don't believe man has gone to the moon. They think it is a Hollywood production.
 

Kenny

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Premium Member
But without tax, how do you have hospitals free for all, schools free for all, good roads, police, army, fire...you get my drift.
Now we are getting into something other than whether Jesus is a socialist.

Again, yes, taxes are necessary. Jesus didn't have a problem with taxes. Basically, I don't either. It is when it goes beyond the scope of what it was meant for that I have a problem especially when socialism, in its purest form, is enacted.

There is a balance between "helping the poor" and "If a man does not work, he should not eat". It differentiates free-loaders from a real-life situation.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Religious schools and hospitals come with too much baggage

Google Savita Halappanavar for problems with Catholic health care
You just have to look a US private schools teaching religion instead of science
:) then there are those who acknowledge that public schools comes with too much baggage too. I guess it just depends on what kind of baggage you want. :)
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
A lot of people don't buy into the Ten Commandments, plus, a lot of people don't believe in god, particularly the Christian god. And it's pretty reasonable that those Christians who do love god, but don't go along with his hatred of sex, indulge themselves in it. :shrug:
You are absolutely right about that, many or maybe even most unmarried religious people indulge themselves in sex out of wedlock, but if they do that they are breaking the Laws of their religion and I consider that hypocrisy.
If they really loved God they would not break God's Laws.
I know if I loved god, but found some of his positions to be asinine, that I'd ignore them. Wouldn't you?.
No, never, because that would make me a hypocrite.
I would also be failing in my duty towards God because I would be failing to observe the second of the Twin Duties, which is to "observe every ordinance of Him Who is the Desire of the world." Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 330-331
 

Skwim

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God does not have a "problem" with sex in its proper context, which is marriage.
And no one is arguing any differently. The whole point of the thread is to find out why god hates sex outside the context of the missionary position within marriage.

As *sigh* I said in my OP

According to the Bible god doesn't like prostitutes, homosexuality, bestiality, consensual adultery (all adultery is bad), marrying a divorced woman, premarital sex, lust, sensuality, semen, etc. etc..​


Humans want to take sex out of its proper context,
Yup. and the question is, why has god constructed this "proper context" in the first place? Why does he hate these other forms of sexual expression? Why does he find semen so disgusting that if a man emits it he will be unclean until evening?

Leviticus 15:16-18
“If a man has an emission of semen, he shall bathe his whole body in water and be unclean until the evening.
Why is sensuality so bad?

Galatians 5:19-21
Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these.
What is so wrong with bestiality that' it's worthy of death?

Exodus 22:19
“Whoever lies with an animal shall be put to death.
Why is looking at someone with lust, adultery?

Matthew 5:28
But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.​

Or divorcing one's wife, except for sexual immorality, and marrying another, adultery?

Matthew 19:9
And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”

I'm not looking for answers to these questions, and probably wouldn't read them anyway. I'm merely putting them out here for your consideration of god's unreasonable hatred of sex related activities.

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Skwim

Veteran Member
You are absolutely right about that, many or maybe even most unmarried religious people indulge themselves in sex out of wedlock, but if they do that they are breaking the Laws of their religion and I consider that hypocrisy.
As do I, which is why I find those Christian denominations that now accept homosexuality, as being hypocritical.

No, never, because that would make me a hypocrite.
I would also be failing in my duty towards God because I would be failing to observe the second of the Twin Duties, which is to "observe every ordinance of Him Who is the Desire of the world." Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 330-331
And to each his own.

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Altfish

Veteran Member
Now we are getting into something other than whether Jesus is a socialist.

Again, yes, taxes are necessary. Jesus didn't have a problem with taxes. Basically, I don't either. It is when it goes beyond the scope of what it was meant for that I have a problem especially when socialism, in its purest form, is enacted.

There is a balance between "helping the poor" and "If a man does not work, he should not eat". It differentiates free-loaders from a real-life situation.
I think you are mixing socialism with communism/Marxism, there is a big difference.
 
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