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Officially the investigation now is

Riders

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I am listening to CNN they've got breaking news Mueller is officially investigation Trump for obstruction of Justice in firing Comey yay!
 

Mindmaster

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Premium Member
I am listening to CNN they've got breaking news Mueller is officially investigation Trump for obstruction of Justice in firing Comey yay!

Comey was never the lead on the investigation, so how this becomes obstruction is beyond me other than the usual liberal mental gymnastics. Life is so much better when you despise both parties for what they are. Anyway, Trump has just been letting Mueller hang himself with his own rope and playing out the slack to allow him to do so. Anyone that trusts the FBI at all after these shenanigans is a complete moron, so his actions are profitable. You'll be lucky if we even have an FBI by the end of his term if they keep going.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
Comey was never the lead on the investigation, so how this becomes obstruction is beyond me other than the usual liberal mental gymnastics. Life is so much better when you despise both parties for what they are. Anyway, Trump has just been letting Mueller hang himself with his own rope and playing out the slack to allow him to do so. Anyone that trusts the FBI at all after these shenanigans is a complete moron, so his actions are profitable. You'll be lucky if we even have an FBI by the end of his term if they keep going.


There is also a group of them who want to impeach Rosenstien it maybe because of this. I hate both groups too but I'm not stupid enough to fall for Trumps act.
Trump heard Comey was going to investigate him and he fired him end of story. How you can come up with he didn't obstruct justice is far from me.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
You'll be lucky if we even have an FBI by the end of his term if they keep going.
We'll be lucky if we have a democracy by the end of his term. I'm bracing myself for a dictatorship, such as anyone living under one can. Only trust the President speaks the truth, is nothing my mind can accept. Such madness will be our own undoing.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Here is the source https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/26/us/politics/trump-tweets-mueller-obstruction.html

Mueller is investigating the tweets of trump to see if hes obstructed justice by firing Comey!

HAHAHAHAHA yep hes investigating Trump officially and for all of you Trump supporters and non ssuppoters who keep saying nothign is going to be done they wont investigate Trump and hes done nothing wrong AHA! YOU WERE ALL WRONG!


How cute! I'm starting to put your posts on my refrigerator. This is nothing new, nor is it by any means conclusive. And what justice did Trump obstruct by firing Comey.
 

Mindmaster

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Premium Member
We'll be lucky if we have a democracy by the end of his term. I'm bracing myself for a dictatorship, such as anyone living under one can. Only trust the President speaks the truth, is nothing my mind can accept. Such madness will be our own undoing.

We never had a democracy, in fact, we probably never want one. :D Mob rule isn't exactly beneficial to the outcome of your society and the founders understood this. We're a republic, and that means a representative government - baked into that idea is that a dictatorship is nearly impossible. Look at us now, different wings of the government in open revolt with each other - that's just not how a dictatorship happens.

I don't want a democracy either because I know it fails. If we simply voted on every matter individually then only the populous centers would have any vote. Nah, I'm much happier with things the way they are. Especially since those populous centers are now allowing illegal aliens to vote.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
How cute! I'm starting to put your posts on my refrigerator. This is nothing new, nor is it by any means conclusive. And what justice did Trump obstruct by firing Comey.

Its nothing new its nothing new? LMFAO! Seeing that I have heard from you guys Trump is not the target of subject of any investigation nor will he ever be 10 trillion times over and over on this here forum.

Now Mueller says he is officially investigation Trump for Obstruction the exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact opposite of every single thing you guys have been saying for the last year.

Now you say its nothing and its nothing new so now your saying Trump has been the target of the investigation all a long?

What kind of drugs are you taking you must be high.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Comey was never the lead on the investigation, so how this becomes obstruction is beyond me
Since twice Trump admitted it, you really shouldn't have this question.

Anyone that trusts the FBI at all after these shenanigans is a complete moron,
I don't blindly trust anyone, even including myself, but to support Trump after his blind love affair with Putin, which has been in full display at the expense of the FBI, is simply nothing short of delusional.

We'll be lucky if we have a democracy by the end of his term. I'm bracing myself for a dictatorship
You seem to be actually taking positions welcoming it as Trump has been continually acting as an autocrat does.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Its nothing new its nothing new? LMFAO! Seeing that I have heard from you guys Trump is not the target of subject of any investigation nor will he ever be 10 trillion times over and over on this here forum.

Now Mueller says he is officially investigation Trump for Obstruction the exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact opposite of every single thing you guys have been saying for the last year.

Now you say its nothing and its nothing new so now your saying Trump has been the target of the investigation all a long?

What kind of drugs are you taking you must be high.

Uhhh...it was Comey's FBI that finally admitted that Trump, at the time, was not under any investigation. Try to keep up.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
We'll be lucky if we have a democracy by the end of his term. I'm bracing myself for a dictatorship, such as anyone living under one can. Only trust the President speaks the truth, is nothing my mind can accept. Such madness will be our own undoing.

I'm a short term pessimist and a long term optimist. The current wave of evil will be defeated as evil always is sooner or later.

I stand with Martin Luther King who famously said, but not originally, "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice." I was only a tiny bit surprised find an earlier source: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/11/15/arc-of-universe/ which had this quote:

We cannot understand the moral Universe. The arc is a long one, and our eyes reach but a little way; we cannot calculate the curve and complete the figure by the experience of sight; but we can divine it by conscience, and we surely know that it bends toward justice. Justice will not fail, though wickedness appears strong, and has on its side the armies and thrones of power, the riches and the glory of the world, and though poor men crouch down in despair. Justice will not fail and perish out from the world of men, nor will what is really wrong and contrary to God’s real law of justice continually endure.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
Uhhh...it was Comey's FBI that finally admitted that Trump, at the time, was not under any investigation. Try to keep up.

No all you guys said that all of you theres ten trillion posts up here from you Trump supporter screaming that Trump is not the target of an investigation are you denying that?
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
No all you guys said that all of you theres ten trillion posts up here from you Trump supporter screaming that Trump is not the target of an investigation are you denying that?

Of Russian collusion; and even though you think you know what you're talking about he is still not under investigation.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
How cute! I'm starting to put your posts on my refrigerator. This is nothing new, nor is it by any means conclusive. And what justice did Trump obstruct by firing Comey.
One has to be patient, Alfalfa :D
The Russiagate circus is entertainment, after all
 
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Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
We'll be lucky if we have a democracy by the end of his term. I'm bracing myself for a dictatorship, such as anyone living under one can. Only trust the President speaks the truth, is nothing my mind can accept. Such madness will be our own undoing.
You think we have a democracy now? You think we freely choose our 'leaders'? You think politicians are responsive to the will or needs of the people?
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I don't blindly trust anyone, even including myself, but to support Trump after his blind love affair with Putin, which has been in full display at the expense of the FBI, is simply nothing short of delusional.

You seem to be actually taking positions welcoming it as Trump has been continually acting as an autocrat does.

To simply this so even paleolithic age neanderthals can understand - I support no one, but I hope they do a good job regardless of their affiliations. Some of what they do I like, some I don't.

Russia is over-rated. They have a small economy and also because of those limited resources have a small influence. Anyone that takes the bait and accepts them as the scapegoat is just buying the propaganda in lieu of any reason. They literally don't have the resources for any sort of sustained intelligence campaign against a country as large as ours. As big as Russia is, its economy is smaller than Italy. Would you be afraid of Italy too? Pfft, the scale required to meddle in anything on this side of the water successfully is daunting. China could probably do such a thing if they desired, but Russia - it's a joke and implausible.

I understand that everyone here is tilted left to the extreme, that just makes my balanced non-leaning position seem right-ish or whatever. :D
 
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