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The rEvolving Doorway

Audie

Veteran Member
I'll have to read the surrounding verses to get the context, you can't just pluck verses out of their context and abuse them to try and push some agenda.

Talk about a dodge! Embarrassing!

You pushed the agenda; your claim is that
it is 100% correct.

I challenged you to say if you really believe that,
will you stand up for your words.

And off you run.

Pitifully easy.
 

Danny1988

Member
How did he prove it? He was executed like a common criminal by the Romans for being a renegade. His movement became a gentile cult that Jews rightly rejected. Jesus achieved nothing, especially anything the moshiach is supposed to do. He didn't bring peace; he didn't reunite the ten lost tribes; he didn't do anything prophesied in the Tanach. He was a failure and he was put to death screaming. He allowed his apostles to break Shabbos by plucking corn, and he wrongly assumed that healing on Shabbos is forbidden. It's not. He disowned his mother and went roving around the country preaching 'The Kingdom of G-d is nigh' when it clearly wasn't as it's been 2,000 years now. So Christians had to make up this narrative about a second-coming to hide their embarrassment that their christ achieved literally nothing, and give some trumped up meaning to his untimely death involving human sacrifice, something G-d would never allow, and declare that anyone who can't see this is blind.

Your false moshiach fulfilled no prophecies, was a law-breaker and executed by the Romans.

What a poor excuse for a saviour.
The problem is He did save those He came to save, He has given eternal paradise to all of Gods elect. He also damned all the non believers to eternity in the lake of fire.

He achieved to establish His Kingdom right here on earth, Christianity is taking over the whole world. The Asian countries, the Africans, the South Americans are all seeing huge numbers of converts to Christianity.

Jesus created the whole universe and every single atom in it, He owns you and you will bow down before Him and worship Him before he casts you into the lake of fire to be tormented forever.

You don't know when that day is, it could be today so be very afraid. Repent and ask for forgiveness as a matter of greatest urgency and importance. He has revealed Himself to me in person, so I have no doubt about who He is and what he's going to do. But I can't prove this to you, so all I can do is plead with you to repent and ask Him to reveal Himself to you.
 

Danny1988

Member
Hmmm, what happens when two people both think they're God's people, but disagree with each other? How do you know which is right?
Jesus said He is God, so if the person confesses that Christ is God and they believe in Him for the forgiveness of their sins, then you know they are truly Gods people.
 

Danny1988

Member
Talk about a dodge! Embarrassing!

You pushed the agenda; your claim is that
it is 100% correct.

I challenged you to say if you really believe that,
will you stand up for your words.

And off you run.

Pitifully easy.
It's not an urgent priority, that I should drop everything and study that scripture to show how wrong you are. Don't worry you will be humiliated in good time, don't be in a rush to suffer humiliation
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Jesus said He is God, so if the person confesses that Christ is God and they believe in Him for the forgiveness of their sins, then you know they are truly Gods people.
Doesn't answer my question. I have confessed my sins to Christ and accept him as my personal saviour, yet it's clear you and I disagree about a bunch of stuff. How shall we tell which of us is right?
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
The problem is He did save those He came to save, He has given eternal paradise to all of Gods elect. He also damned all the non believers to eternity in the lake of fire.
First, the idea of damning people to an eternity in a lake of fire is a horrendous, sadistic form of torture that G-d would not inflict. People are purified for a time in Sheol and this does not take forever, because punishing someone eternally for a finite crime is ludicrous.

Second, saving from what? The Jewish people and others did just fine without needing a saviour of the sort your religion promises for thousands of years. If you are Jewish, you follow the Torah; if you are Noahide, you follow the Noahide Law. If you slip and transgress, you stand, repent and try again. It's a simple process that is repeated over and over throughout the Scriptures. No human sacrifice needed. The people of Nineveh repented just fine; they needed no intercessor.


He achieved to establish His Kingdom right here on earth, Christianity is taking over the whole world. The Asian countries, the Africans, the South Americans are all seeing huge numbers of converts to Christianity.
Actually, Christianity is in decline. The religion poised to be the largest in the future is Islam. Europeans are leaving Christianity in droves and when they describe themselves as 'Christian' they often mean culturally Christian, not theologically. I have met many such Christians who do not even have a G-d belief. They just call themselves that because it's part of one's national identity. The Nordic countries and the UK are mostly atheist. The amount of people describing themselves as atheists or 'other' in U.S. religion polls is at the highest it's ever been. Christians also have fewer children than Muslims, so Islam can win just by high birth rates.

Jesus created the whole universe and every single atom in it, He owns you and you will bow down before Him and worship Him before he casts you into the lake of fire to be tormented forever.
No, G-d created the world. Jesus was a renegade faith healer who was executed and fulfilled none of the messianic prophecies. He is dead.

You don't know when that day is, it could be today so be very afraid. Repent and ask for forgiveness as a matter of greatest urgency and importance. He has revealed Himself to me in person, so I have no doubt about who He is and what he's going to do. But I can't prove this to you, so all I can do is plead with you to repent and ask Him to reveal Himself to you.

Nah.
 
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Danny1988

Member
Doesn't answer my question. I have confessed my sins to Christ and accept him as my personal saviour, yet it's clear you and I disagree about a bunch of stuff. How shall we tell which of us is right?
God gave us His Word the Holy Bible, so we can refer to it to see who is true and faithful and who is a false professor
 

Earthling

David Henson
Your idolatry of some book written by ancient, primitive goat herders is a form of false god.

First of all, name the goat herders who wrote the Bible. Not the kings, the lawyers, the physician, or the fishermen, just the goat herders, and secondly explain how reading and adhering to the instructions in the Bible are idolatry.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
It's not an urgent priority, that I should drop everything and study that scripture to show how wrong you are. Don't worry you will be humiliated in good time, don't be in a rush to suffer humiliation

No, do not suppose you would be in a rush to have
to admit that your claim that the bible is 100%
correct is delusional.

That hard brittle shell of unreality you've so carefully
constructed wont stand for it; one little hole, or
crack and the whole thing will implode.

There are plenty more things to point out that
are not "100% correct", without a whole lot of
"interpreting".

Jesus was a lamb, or a door, or both?
Hills and rivers will river clap and sing?

The "ark" was 300 cubits long? 300.000000000
to infinity exact?

Noah was that good?

You will just stall around, hoping to get away
with this falsehood of yours. Tsk. Honourable?
Perhaps not.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
God gave us His Word the Holy Bible, so we can refer to it to see who is true and faithful and who is a false professor

Are you a false "professor"? is it something that matters,
if you are or not?

Does the bible anywhere say it is 100% or is that just
your (demonstrably false) claim?
 
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