Works and deeds vs faith and grace
1. Works
Romans 2:6
5But because of your hard and unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of wrath, when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed. 6
God “will repay each oneaccording to his deeds.” 7To those who by perseverance in doing good seek glory, honor, and immortality, He will give eternal life.…
Ecc 12:14
…13When all has been heard, the conclusion of the matter is this: Fear God and keep His commandments, because this is the whole duty of man. 14
For God will bring everydeed into judgment, along with every hidden thing,whether good or evil.
Isaiah 57:12 (deeds-rightous works) compared to deeds as a means of fsith
@BilliardsBall
Matthew 16:27 and more:
Scripture on deeds
2. Faith and grace
through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the obedience of faith among all the Gentiles for His name's sake, Romans 1:5
Obedience to god (which is contrary to the idea of saving grace without ones works [how I read it is works for god isnt rightous works and because its for god, through them be saved)
But
Luke 7:50 says:
And He said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace
(So does this mean faith only, no doing anything for god from self?)
John 5:24 it says
Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
(Yet, one is judged based on one's deeds not by ones faith (above))
3. I know all the answers based on my experience, study, and reasing scripture but because its not aola scriptura, Id like to hear another point of view.
A. If god says he will judge by ones deeds, what does it mean to be saved by faith only when deeds are weighed for salvation while faith is weighed by one's decision to follow and act that salvation? (Are you judged by faith or deeds? )
B. Grace is unmerited favor
Epphesians 2:8-9; romans 11:6
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast
Righteous works (ego) or works for god (devotion)?
Mathew 7:21
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
(But then one still must do something?) What exactly can be done without call it works?
James 1:22 here is a good one (
@BilliardsBall )
But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.
(This is the works I mean)
Contradiction? Yet, it says faith only to savs
For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law. (Romans 3:28)
James 2:24
You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone
But
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
I honestly think all this is in context
Works for self: righteous and of the law which is not the same as works for god
Anyway,
3. Can you simplify in your view OP works in relation to god and man? Or is it just the word that gives conflicting messages?
4. If god saved the word, and whomever believes in christ is saved, then christ didnt die for all but a selective few. If he is the savior of jew ans gentil why would he have stipulations over his own creation and then say he loves all? Romans 5:8 (or all just means who believes?)
Proverbs 8:13 I love those who love me, and those who seek me diligently find me.
Children and infant cant love god until they are aware of him i their heart not by knowledge. All have sined.
5. How does infant gets a way out when they are born of inherited sin?