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What would you expect people to do if a real God sent a real Messenger to earth?

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
What would you expect people to do if a real God sent a real Messenger to earth?

This is a hypothetical question and it is mostly directed at nonbelievers.
Believers can answer this too if they want to.

I have a specific reason for asking this but I want to leave it open-ended for now. :)
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
Id certainly expect a wealth of learnable knowledge about being, relationship, truth and existence. The knowledge given would remove all doubts on ultimate questions.

My question is to you , who is Jesus to Bahullah?
 
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Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Id certainly expect a wealth of learnable knowledge about being, relationship, truth and existence. The knowledge given would remove all doubts on ultimate questions.
That is what we have in the Revelation of Baha'u'llah. :D
Baha'u'llah revealed everything we need to know and are capable of understanding during this age of history. More will be revealed in the future by the next Messenger of God as our needs and capabilities increase.
My question is to you , who is Jesus to Bahullah?
Jesus was a Manifestation of God (a Messenger of God, a mediator between God and man), just like Baha'u'llah. Jesus prepared the way for the coming of the Kingdom of God on earth by spiritualizing humanity with His teachings. Jesus changed the hearts of man so they would be ready to unite when Baha'u'llah appeared.

John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

Obviously that could not be accomplished at Jesus’ first coming, when He walked the earth, because the whole world could not even communicate with each other. It refers to a future age in history, when “there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.”

Baha’is beleive Jesus is referring to His Second Coming, when all of humanity would be gathered together and become one people. The unity of mankind was the primary mission of Baha’u’llah. The one fold was prophesied in Isaiah 11:6-9 and the one shepherd was prophesied in Isaiah 9:6-7. It is a Baha’i belief that in the future there will be only one religion, the religion of God.

What Isaiah 11:6-9 means to a Baha’i is that in the future diverse religions and races will become comrades, friends and companions. The contentions between races, the differences of religions, and the barriers between nations will be completely removed, and all of humanity will attain perfect union and reconciliation.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I believe that has happened repeatedly. Historically that figure has been ignored or attacked by the majority and recognized only by a tiny minority at first.
Yes, that is exactly what happened. Why do you think that happened? What do you think that means?
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
That is what we have in the Revelation of Baha'u'llah. :D
Baha'u'llah revealed everything we need to know and are capable of understanding during this age of history. More will be revealed in the future by the next Messenger of God as our needs and capabilities increase.

Jesus was a Manifestation of God (a Messenger of God, a mediator between God and man), just like Baha'u'llah. Jesus prepared the way for the coming of the Kingdom of God on earth by spiritualizing humanity with His teachings. Jesus changed the hearts of man so they would be ready to unite when Baha'u'llah appeared.

John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

Obviously that could not be accomplished at Jesus’ first coming, when He walked the earth, because the whole world could not even communicate with each other. It refers to a future age in history, when “there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.”

Baha’is beleive Jesus is referring to His Second Coming, when all of humanity would be gathered together and become one people. The unity of mankind was the primary mission of Baha’u’llah. The one fold was prophesied in Isaiah 11:6-9 and the one shepherd was prophesied in Isaiah 9:6-7. It is a Baha’i belief that in the future there will be only one religion, the religion of God.

What Isaiah 11:6-9 means to a Baha’i is that in the future diverse religions and races will become comrades, friends and companions. The contentions between races, the differences of religions, and the barriers between nations will be completely removed, and all of humanity will attain perfect union and reconciliation.

Is the bible apart of the Ba'hai faith?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
What would you expect people to do if a real God sent a real Messenger to earth?

This is a hypothetical question and it is mostly directed at nonbelievers.
Believers can answer this too if they want to.

I have a specific reason for asking this but I want to leave it open-ended for now. :)
The problem would be in ascertaining the legitimacy of the claim. How would one arrive at accepting such claims as being genuine? It would almost have to be a leap of faith... and that is expecting a lot in this day and age.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Perhaps many would be inclined to put such a God on trial (via any messenger), or at least ask him/her/it to explain why there was not a clear and obvious indication of there being such a God from the very beginning, and where all the conflicting religious beliefs might not then have arisen so as to cause so much strife and death throughout history. So, more judgmental perhaps than acceptance. But I assume any God would have appropriate excuses - being omnipotent and all.
 
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dfnj

Well-Known Member
What would you expect people to do if a real God sent a real Messenger to earth?

This is a hypothetical question and it is mostly directed at nonbelievers.
Believers can answer this too if they want to.

I have a specific reason for asking this but I want to leave it open-ended for now. :)

Why would God send any Messenger at all. Everything is Perfect just the way it is. Who am I to judge anything about God's creation.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Yes, that is exactly what happened. Why do you think that happened? What do you think that means?
It's human nature in its current state of evolution as I see it. When a World Teacher comes, the current state of affairs is disrupted with a new dispensation and people resist the change.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
What would you expect people to do if a real God sent a real Messenger to earth?
Most people would ridicule them, and not take it seriously...

Religions wouldn't accept the change, thus would ignore, and even delete them if possible from people learning alternatives.

Thus they'd not be noticed, even if they explained it to people.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
What would you expect people to do if a real God sent a real Messenger to earth?

Be astonished. I mean, what why would a deity -- any real deity -- do such a thing?

We are so accustomed to hearing stories of deities coming to earth -- or sending messengers -- that we simply no longer think about such stories. Instead, we just accept that as something deity might do.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
People's reactions depend on how charismatic some speaker is and how popular the message is, no matter what source they quote if any.

What would the messenger do and would the messenger say he is a messenger?
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
What would you expect people to do if a real God sent a real Messenger to earth?

All people drop to thy knee's
Look towards the sky
For heavens no more deny
no lie
cry
we would be saved!

This can't be true
They would say
On that day
In a disbelieving way
But hey !
Proof is in the pudding
Heart beats thudding
Excitement and joy
like invention of new toy
Child like may
Who's to say

If the messenger looked like man
People would think
Just another scam
Throw them in a van
With a nice white jacket
Wrapped in a packet
They would not hack it
Just another nut job
Poor sod
They was from God
Didn't look like a frog
Yet we flushed them
Down the bog

I hope that answers your question
With absolute objection
Love and affection
Trying to find perfection....
Be people
Be like people
Be individual
But equal
For I am
And you are
The children of God.

 
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Frater Sisyphus

Contradiction, irrationality and disorder
If you remove religious prejudice and take it into consideration as something significant that happened, even with complete undeniable scientific proof; there would still be people that outright deny it. Not just stubborn-type atheists but religious people from other religions, matrix/simulation theorists and conspiracy theorists - will likely disagree all over the board rather than see what is objectively happening in front of their eyes.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
What would you expect people to do if a real God sent a real Messenger to earth?

This is a hypothetical question and it is mostly directed at nonbelievers.
Believers can answer this too if they want to.

I have a specific reason for asking this but I want to leave it open-ended for now. :)
OK, as a non-believer....

The first thing that'll happen is all the religious people will declare 'it' a false prophet because it doesn't comply with their religious beliefs.
Then there'd be a TV bidding war to get exclusive rights to the interview.
Trump of course will be calling it 'Fake News'
Non-believers will be very skeptical, certainly wanting this being to jump through a few hoops to prove its claims. Once they are convinced, non-believers will listen to what it has to say, ask questions, interrogate. If it demands worship, it'd probably lose me there and then.

Be very interesting though.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
What would you expect people to do if a real God sent a real Messenger to earth?

This is a hypothetical question and it is mostly directed at nonbelievers.
Believers can answer this too if they want to.

I have a specific reason for asking this but I want to leave it open-ended for now. :)

Id ask personally, which god. I dont have a good idea of what god is to know the differences.

I went to a good concert once. The people fell head over hills for the singer insomuch to try and touch his leg. People cried when witney huston died but was thankful that michael jackson died as well. My former friend and I were watching prope francis on t.v. when he came to DC. Someone tried to jump on him to touch his garment. My catholic friend said, "thats like jumping on god".

Id expect people to faint, try to touch him, and basically stop, drop, and roll. I mean he could send muhammad back or moses or elisiah, jesus, or abraham. Who knows.

Id be shocked but based on what i read about the abrahamic god he'd have to force me to worship him or turn me into salt.
 
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Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
This 'prophet' would have to do something far more spectacular that any so called prophet has done to date. If he volunteered to stand by a wall under a firing squad of 1000 high powered rifles, got blasted repeatedly for 20 minutes, and then got up and addressed the entire world through the power of whispering simultaneously in everyone's ear from the ethers, coupled with a 3-D image of himself 10 inches in front of everyone's eyes and speaking in 200 different languages, then sure.

But so far we've never had anything close. Good orators, zealous devotees, delusion, braggarts, colorful writers with imagination, fictional characters, ... that combined with gullible people and a debilitating psychological need for such a thing, easily explains everything to date.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
What would you expect people to do if a real God sent a real Messenger to earth?

This is a hypothetical question and it is mostly directed at nonbelievers.
Believers can answer this too if they want to.

I have a specific reason for asking this but I want to leave it open-ended for now. :)
Because there is no way for a human to verify that one is a "real messenger from God", I expect people would react pretty much as they do, now, to those who proclaim themselves to be "real messengers from God".
 
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