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Trinity

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Is god the creator, the created, and the creating?

or is god the former, some of the formed/offspring, and the forming?
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Is god the creator, the created, and the creating?

or is god the former, some of the formed/offspring, and the forming?
god the former, [with] some of the formed/offspring, and the forming

More so the second choice, imo. But with with. :)
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
actually he did. he said when you baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit
Did Christ say that? Where? I recall John the Baptist said "He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire", but I can't recall Jesus speaking about the Trinity like that.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
actually he did. he said when you baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit
Was Jesus afraid of speaking the word "Trinity", please? I don't think so.
He was a Jew so his words should be interpreted from the teachings of Moses whom he followed. Did Moses speak of Trinity, please? No, Moses never mentioned it. Right, please?
One is welcome to differ with me with reasons and arguments, if any, as that is one's right, please.
Regards
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Was Jesus afraid of speaking the word "Trinity", please? I don't think so.
He was a Jew so his words should be interpreted from the teachings of Moses whom he followed. Did Moses speak of Trinity, please? No, Moses never mentioned it. Right, please?
One is welcome to differ with me with reasons and arguments, if any, as that is one's right, please.
Regards

ideas don't necessarily have a specific name, or label.

like kenosis; which wasn't coined until the 1800s and refers to the following

Philippians 2:7
rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I don't understand the question. I understand that God was not born. An offspring is born from something else.

was creation born from god? god being the womb based on the verse supplied?


For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
was creation born from god? god being the womb based on the verse supplied?


For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.
First, how do you know that's true and secondly, how do you know the word translated in wasn't with?
 
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