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Gods Of Yourselves

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Is free will analogous to being God of oneself?

God

5) The one 1) Supreme Being, 2) the creator and 3) ruler of the universe.

Dictionary.com - The world’s favorite online dictionary!


1) Do you hold supremacy of will?

2) Do you create? Morality? Good? Bad?

3) Do you rule over yourself? Others? Other things? Territories?

4) Is free will autolatrous? Do you perform acts of pleasure and precedence to oneself?

Autolatry

Self-worship.

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5) Idolatry? Do you also worship a God, that you relegate power (not Supremacy) to on a Judgement Day?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
By your definition of God (and any other widely accepted definition I've seen), no.
Besides, we don't have 100% (godly) free will. We have the ability to make choices within fairly limited constraints. Given the choices many people make totally free will would be incredibly dangerous.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Besides, we don't have 100% (godly) free will. We have the ability to make choices within fairly limited constraints. Given the choices many people make totally free will would be incredibly dangerous.

And some are more free than others it seems. That's how I see free will.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Besides, we don't have 100% (godly) free will. We have the ability to make choices within fairly limited constraints. Given the choices many people make totally free will would be incredibly dangerous.

Do you see some kind of actual free will in operation then Ymster? Rather than it just being a fiction?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Dont know if the questions where written to be answered.
1) Do you hold supremacy of will?

Yes. Only of my own life. I cant control and dont want to control others.

2) Do you create? Morality? Good? Ba

Yes. What is good to me is not always good to someone else. Some people find killing someone for certain crimes moral where I believe killing in itself immoral when it isnt done to survive.

We do create morals for ourselves as we learn more about our essense and core values that define us.

3) Do you rule over yourself? Others? Other things? Territories?

Myself. Parents over their families. Me over my students. I disagree with "ruling" over people. Sounds political.

4) Is free will autolatrous? Do you perform acts of pleasure and precedence to oneself?

No.

5) Idolatry? Do you also worship a God, that you relegate power (not Supremacy) to on a Judgement Day?

No. All of that is foreign to me.
 

Amani_Bhava

Member
Is free will analogous to being God of oneself?

It would be if one had complete free will.

I wanted to be 6 ft tall. But it didn't happen. Ergo, I do not have free will.

To elaborate a bit - what we are - our skin color, our parents, financial status of the family we are raised in, our height and shape of our body, our IQ .. is completely out of our control.

We are left with a tiny bit of free will .. e.g. -- when facing insurmountable obstacles shall we jump off the 30th floor or 70th floor, when eating burger shall we eat more french fries or less, whiskey with water or neat ... things like that.

namaste

amani_bhava
 
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Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
It would be if one had complete free will.

I wanted to be 6 ft tall. But it didn't happen. Ergo, I do not have free will.

namaste

amani_bhava

I think you have a misconception of free will. Fairy tale wishing is not free will. We might not have 100% free will but many seem to have a lot. Not enough?
 

Amani_Bhava

Member
I think you have a misconception of free will. Fairy tale wishing is not free will. We might not have 100% free will but many seem to have a lot. Not enough?

Free will is open to interpretations. I might have a different understanding than you.

Wishing I will be 6 ft tall is not fairy tale dreaming. If I had free will I would be 6 ft tall. I do not have free will since my genes determine my height.

"Many seem to have a lot" not everyone

namaste

amani_bhava
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Free will is open to interpretations. I might have a different understanding than you.

Wishing I will be 6 ft tall is not fairy tale dreaming. If I had free will I would be 6 ft tall. I do not have free will since my genes determine my height.

"Many seem to have a lot" not everyone

namaste

amani_bhava

OK.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Is free will analogous to being God of oneself?

God

5) The one 1) Supreme Being, 2) the creator and 3) ruler of the universe.

Dictionary.com - The world’s favorite online dictionary!


1) Do you hold supremacy of will?

2) Do you create? Morality? Good? Bad?

3) Do you rule over yourself? Others? Other things? Territories?

4) Is free will autolatrous? Do you perform acts of pleasure and precedence to oneself?

Autolatry

Self-worship.

Dictionary.com - The world’s favorite online dictionary!



5) Idolatry? Do you also worship a God, that you relegate power (not Supremacy) to on a Judgement Day?

What odd things to be thinking about!
 

Phantasman

Well-Known Member
Is free will analogous to being God of oneself?

God

5) The one 1) Supreme Being, 2) the creator and 3) ruler of the universe.

Dictionary.com - The world’s favorite online dictionary!


1) Do you hold supremacy of will?

2) Do you create? Morality? Good? Bad?

3) Do you rule over yourself? Others? Other things? Territories?

4) Is free will autolatrous? Do you perform acts of pleasure and precedence to oneself?

Autolatry

Self-worship.

Dictionary.com - The world’s favorite online dictionary!



5) Idolatry? Do you also worship a God, that you relegate power (not Supremacy) to on a Judgement Day?
Even the dictionary cannot identify God (the Father).

Names given to the worldly are very deceptive, for they divert our thoughts from what is correct to what is incorrect. Thus one who hears the word "God" does not perceive what is correct, but perceives what is incorrect. So also with "the Father" and "the Son" and "the Holy Spirit" and "life" and "light" and "resurrection" and "the Church (Ekklesia)" and all the rest - people do not perceive what is correct but they perceive what is incorrect, unless they have come to know what is correct. The names which are heard are in the world [...] deceive. If they were in the Aeon (eternal realm), they would at no time be used as names in the world. Nor were they set among worldly things. They have an end in the Aeon.- Gospel of Philip

"He is the invisible Spirit, of whom it is not right to think of him as a god, or something similar. For he is more than a god, since there is nothing above him, for no one lords it over him. For he does not exist in something inferior to him, since everything exists in him. For it is he who establishes himself. He is eternal, since he does not need anything. For he is total perfection. He did not lack anything, that he might be completed by it; rather he is always completely perfect in light. He is illimitable, since there is no one prior to him to set limits to him. He is unsearchable, since there exists no one prior to him to examine him. He is immeasurable, since there was no one prior to him to measure him. He is invisible, since no one saw him. He is eternal, since he exists eternally. He is ineffable, since no one was able to comprehend him to speak about him. He is unnameable, since there is no one prior to him to give him a name.- Secret John

Which is why Jesus used parables, IMO.
 
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