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Who are the truth seekers here?

Cary Cook

Member
Who are the truth seekers in the Theological Concepts section?
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I've been warned by Polymath257 that I should check out RH Rules.

Apparently my 1st 2 paragraphs violated their rule that says:
"You agree to not use the Service to submit or link to any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend..."
...even though I didn't mention anyone in particular.
Therefore I've eliminated those lines.

If the remainder violates the rules, not only do I not belong here, but hardly anyone belongs here.
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I only care about talking to active rational truth seekers, and I want to know who you are. I mean objective truth. i.e. Correspondence to reality. I want to talk to people who not only use logic when it leads to conclusions they like, but also submit to logic when it leads to conclusions they don't like.

This thread will probably also attract responses from the people I have no use for, but that's OK; I want to know who to ignore.
 
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Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Who are the truth seekers in the Theological Concepts section?

It has come to my attention that there are many in RF who blatantly don't care about truth. They are just here to exercise their ability to play games. Such people waste my time.

There are also professed truth seekers who are off the yellow brick road, and sleeping in a dogma field.

I only care about talking to active rational truth seekers, and I want to know who you are. I mean objective truth. i.e. Correspondence to reality. I want to talk to people who not only use logic when it leads to conclusions they like, but also submit to logic when it leads to conclusions they don't like.

This thread will probably also attract responses from the people I have no use for, but that's OK; I want to know who to ignore.
Well! Excuuuse me!
Lol.
I hope you have some good conversations.
If I may ask, you believe in one God, but a non-Scriptural one. So what evidence do you think exists for God?
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
That's a great way to open up a dialogue between disparate viewpoints. Become arbiter of logic, truth and reality.
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Jeremiah Ames

Well-Known Member
Truth cannot be recognized by those who have no truth in them.

Just as goodness cannot be recognized by evil.

For instance, a person who lives for evil cannot comprehend what good is, since they cannot see truth. Their minds only see their own truths (which are actually falsities) and believe them to be true.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Who are the truth seekers in the Theological Concepts section?

It has come to my attention that there are many in RF who blatantly don't care about truth. They are just here to exercise their ability to play games. Such people waste my time.

There are also professed truth seekers who are off the yellow brick road, and sleeping in a dogma field.

I only care about talking to active rational truth seekers, and I want to know who you are. I mean objective truth. i.e. Correspondence to reality. I want to talk to people who not only use logic when it leads to conclusions they like, but also submit to logic when it leads to conclusions they don't like.

This thread will probably also attract responses from the people I have no use for, but that's OK; I want to know who to ignore.
Jeeez. I just checked out your website using Firefox and it comes out looking like a horrid mess. What on earth did you use to create it? OIC, it's formatted for Internet Explorer. Ick.

Personally, I'm not big on "the Truth" as the truth is that "Truth" is a variable that is different from person to person, as we never see things quite the same way.
 
Who are the truth seekers in the Theological Concepts section?

It has come to my attention that there are many in RF who blatantly don't care about truth. They are just here to exercise their ability to play games. Such people waste my time.

There are also professed truth seekers who are off the yellow brick road, and sleeping in a dogma field.

I only care about talking to active rational truth seekers, and I want to know who you are. I mean objective truth. i.e. Correspondence to reality. I want to talk to people who not only use logic when it leads to conclusions they like, but also submit to logic when it leads to conclusions they don't like.

This thread will probably also attract responses from the people I have no use for, but that's OK; I want to know who to ignore.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's interesting when people are continually seeking and searching for truth without realizing that truth is all around and permeates the entirety of a person's being and experiences.

It's like a person running around in a panic screaming" Where is my head ! Where is my head! I can't find it"! ;0)
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Who are the truth seekers in the Theological Concepts section?

It has come to my attention that there are many in RF who blatantly don't care about truth. They are just here to exercise their ability to play games. Such people waste my time.

There are also professed truth seekers who are off the yellow brick road, and sleeping in a dogma field.

I only care about talking to active rational truth seekers, and I want to know who you are. I mean objective truth. i.e. Correspondence to reality. I want to talk to people who not only use logic when it leads to conclusions they like, but also submit to logic when it leads to conclusions they don't like.

This thread will probably also attract responses from the people I have no use for, but that's OK; I want to know who to ignore.

Seeking The Truth is a waste of time.

If you're seeking it, it means you don't have it.

Those claiming to have it can never seem to agree on exactly what it is.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I only care about talking to active rational truth seekers, and I want to know who you are. I mean objective truth. i.e. Correspondence to reality. I want to talk to people who not only use logic when it leads to conclusions they like, but also submit to logic when it leads to conclusions they don't like.

So, you're like to talk to people that think exactly as you do? :D

What is objective truth? Two people rarely agree on anything but the most obvious information. That would lend to the notion that any 'truth' is highly subjective even when it is about 'reality'. Does your reality include your own feelings and experiences, or simply things that are logical? Any measure of the truth has to contain these subjective experiences or it isn't the whole truth.

I can't help but read this post and think 'scientism'. Scientism is: "The belief that the methods of natural science, or the categories and things recognized in natural science, form the only proper elements in any philosophical or other inquiry" or "science, and only science, describes the world as it is in itself, independent of perspective"[ with a concomitant "elimination of the psychological [and spiritual] dimensions of experience" : Scientism - RationalWiki

In essence, you're throwing out religions and making a new one. Good luck and have fun. :D You are using the criteria to invalidate other notions of the truth in the same way that they typically do via the exclusion of all others with no way to prove yours more valid other than to pick some arbitrary conditions (objective reality) to limit the scope. In doing as such you have no basis other than it sounds good to you and that's exactly the criteria anyone else uses that seems to trouble you. The irony is _REAL_... :D

edit: I swapped the link for rationalwiki versus wikipedia because it's much more clear
 
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Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Who are the truth seekers? That would depend on whether or not you consider being here for the hot women and cold beers "truth seeking".
 

socharlie

Active Member
Truth cannot be recognized by those who have no truth in them.

Just as goodness cannot be recognized by evil.

For instance, a person who lives for evil cannot comprehend what good is, since they cannot see truth. Their minds only see their own truths (which are actually falsities) and believe them to be true.
I just committed suicide: used ignore button to help him...
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Who are the truth seekers in the Theological Concepts section?

It has come to my attention that there are many in RF who blatantly don't care about truth. They are just here to exercise their ability to play games. Such people waste my time.

There are also professed truth seekers who are off the yellow brick road, and sleeping in a dogma field.

I only care about talking to active rational truth seekers, and I want to know who you are. I mean objective truth. i.e. Correspondence to reality. I want to talk to people who not only use logic when it leads to conclusions they like, but also submit to logic when it leads to conclusions they don't like.

This thread will probably also attract responses from the people I have no use for, but that's OK; I want to know who to ignore.
Logic and truth are not the same thing. Logic has no obligation to truth since logic can be based entirely on a false premise.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
lol That's exactly what I thought when I read it too.

But then I'm no stranger to intellectual condescension (that means I talk down to people), so I let it pass...

I don't think I've seen meta-condescension at play before. Bravo!!!
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Who are the truth seekers? That would depend on whether or not you consider being here for the hot women and cold beers "truth seeking".

More like 'truthiness seeking'.
Still, you have to admit, it's a pretty clear step up from cold women and hot beer.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Who are the truth seekers in the Theological Concepts section?

It has come to my attention that there are many in RF who blatantly don't care about truth. They are just here to exercise their ability to play games. Such people waste my time.

There are also professed truth seekers who are off the yellow brick road, and sleeping in a dogma field.

I only care about talking to active rational truth seekers, and I want to know who you are. I mean objective truth. i.e. Correspondence to reality. I want to talk to people who not only use logic when it leads to conclusions they like, but also submit to logic when it leads to conclusions they don't like.

This thread will probably also attract responses from the people I have no use for, but that's OK; I want to know who to ignore.
hmmmm.....truth seeker.......are you?
 
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