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Anyone can be a beachgoer, but can everyone be a ...?

Kuzcotopia

If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.
Anyone can be a religious person, but it takes someone special to desire for his brother that what he desires for himself.

Why does that brother have to tie him down and force to on him?

Because that may be special, but it sure ain't love.
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
There's `belief` in every single beach shell,
one has to listen closely, and comes the sunset,
and the tide, and footsteps disappear,
and when the sunrise comes anew,
`belief` is once again renewed.
 

4consideration

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Premium Member
Anyone can be a beachgoer, but can everyone be a surfer? Meaning, can everyone be a believer?
If everyone was a surfer, it would be terribly crowded and dangerous to surf. I wouldn't want that.

When we compare others with our selves and find them coming up short for not wanting and doing exactly like us, I think we fail to consider how beneficial it may be that things are that way.

Holding a view that everyone should be a surfer, and surf in the same way, takes all the fun, creativity, and joy out of it -- and relegates surfing to the realm of drudgery, obligation, and doing it for all kinds of reasons other than love. In my opinion, it would invert/pervert it.
 
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Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
It's My Birthday!
I believe that someday everyone will be a believer, because God has promised us that.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
He may have a point....Seen some hardcore atheists get on their knees in the face of danger. Everyone it seems turns to God when they face their own mortality.
It would not occur to me to do so, and have been in a number of delicate situations over the decades.
The "there are no atheists in foxholes" idea only goes so far.

To counter your point, in the face of reality, many theists have dropped their god and became happy atheists.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Anyone can be a religious person, but it takes someone special to desire for his brother that what he desires for himself.

Now you've gone and done it! You've said something I completely understand and agree with.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
It would not occur to me to do so, and have been in a number of delicate situations over the decades.
The "there are no atheists in foxholes" idea only goes so far.

To counter your point, in the face of reality, many theists have dropped their god and became happy atheists.

^ Commenting your last post...They weren't theists to begin with...Subconsciously they always had questions. At least with me I question despite my belief in God. The beauty with being an agnostic-theist you can flirt with the idea of God even if you're wrong.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It would not occur to me to do so, and have been in a number of delicate situations over the decades.
The "there are no atheists in foxholes" idea only goes so far.

To counter your point, in the face of reality, many theists have dropped their god and became happy atheists.
t > Quotes > Quotable Quote

“People say there are no atheists in foxholes. A lot of people think this is a good argument against atheism. Personally, I think it's a much better argument against foxholes.”
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
I didn't during my heart attack. Still don't.

Good for you...Perhaps God is giving you a chance at life in righting the wrong things in your life even if you don't believe. You see, I'd like to believe, excuse me, I do believe that God doesn't give a damn what you believe but sometimes facing our own mortality may make us cognizant of the things we overlook and do not address in our own lives.

For example an alcoholic prior to cirrhosis of the liver has an inflammation of the liver......This is easily fixable by withdrawing from alcohol. Cirrhosis is not and when that happens you need a liver transplant which as an alcoholic you either need to be extremely wealthy or extremely lucky because most donation organizations don't place an alcoholic at the top of the list. We live a life of chances and sometimes facing mortality makes us aware of that. I'm sure one day whether you believe in God or not, you'll face that realization and that lingering question of the "what if."
 
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