For the love of god, can someone explain who created god?

[FlyingTeaPot]

To all my dear creationist friends, I have a simple question which you might divine from the title.

In another thread, I came across a post whose author clearly believes that god created everything including us. What I want to understand is, how come creationists can suspend their disbelief in regards to the origin of god, and yet in the same breath vehemently deny the possibility of origin of life without a creator.

Can someone explain this apparent schizophrenic belief?

 

[WalterTrull]

Not sure how broad the term "creationist" is. Never-the-less, I have the same feeling about non-godists. How can they suspend their disbelief in the alternative theories? Ah well, different strokes I guess. Ever wake up slowly in the morning and go through several mental places, each one totally logical until the next one totally debunks it? Waiting for the pudding.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

To all my dear creationist friends, I have a simple question which you might divine from the title.

In another thread, I came across a post whose author clearly believes that god created everything including us. What I want to understand is, how come creationists can suspend their disbelief in regards to the origin of god, and yet in the same breath vehemently deny the possibility of origin of life without a creator.

Can someone explain this apparent schizophrenic belief?

It is impossible to conceive infinity not it’s beginning. God does not exist to infinity but is infinity

 

[syo]

god is beyond time. creations are subject to time. what was before time begins? god.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

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In another thread, I came across a post whose author clearly believes that god created everything including us. What I want to understand is, how come creationists can suspend their disbelief in regards to the origin of god, and yet in the same breath vehemently deny the possibility of origin of life without a creator.

Can someone explain this apparent schizophrenic belief?

^ pretty dumb question childishly posed.

 

[Faux Goat]

All things that begin to exist require a cause. If God never began to exist, then He does not require a cause. Hence certain of his titles: First Cause, Unmoved Mover, etc. The challenge for the skeptic is to demonstrate that an eternally existent being is a logical impossibility.

 

[ArtieE]

god is beyond time. creations are subject to time. what was before time begins? god.

Did God exist an hour before time existed? Two hours?

 

[fallingblood]

To all my dear creationist friends, I have a simple question which you might divine from the title.

In another thread, I came across a post whose author clearly believes that god created everything including us. What I want to understand is, how come creationists can suspend their disbelief in regards to the origin of god, and yet in the same breath vehemently deny the possibility of origin of life without a creator.

Can someone explain this apparent schizophrenic belief?

Why does God need an origin? I know many who believe the universe, or at least the matter that makes up the universe, never had an origin. That it is a cycle.

 

[syo]

Did God exist an hour before time existed? Two hours?

no. god is eternal, there was no time measuring before time was created.

 

[socharlie]

To all my dear creationist friends, I have a simple question which you might divine from the title.

In another thread, I came across a post whose author clearly believes that god created everything including us. What I want to understand is, how come creationists can suspend their disbelief in regards to the origin of god, and yet in the same breath vehemently deny the possibility of origin of life without a creator.

Can someone explain this apparent schizophrenic belief?

God is energy, intelligent energy, energy has no end.

 

[WalterTrull]

Did God exist an hour before time existed? Two hours?

Uhmm... not getting the atemporal thing?

 

[allfoak]

To all my dear creationist friends, I have a simple question which you might divine from the title.

In another thread, I came across a post whose author clearly believes that god created everything including us. What I want to understand is, how come creationists can suspend their disbelief in regards to the origin of god, and yet in the same breath vehemently deny the possibility of origin of life without a creator.

Can someone explain this apparent schizophrenic belief?

simple.
The All, is all and is in all.

 

[Jedster]

According to the Rig Veda, even the creator may not know where it came from.


HYMN CXXIX. Creation.
1. THEN was not non-existent nor existent: there was no realm of air, no sky beyond it.
What covered in, and where? and what gave shelter? Was water there, unfathomed depth of water?
2 Death was not then, nor was there aught immortal: no sign was there, the day's and night's divider.
That One Thing, breathless, breathed by its own nature: apart from it was nothing whatsoever.
3 Darkness there was: at first concealed in darkness this All was indiscriminated chaos.
All that existed then was void and form less: by the great power of Warmth was born that Unit.
4 Thereafter rose Desire in the beginning, Desire, the primal seed and germ of Spirit.
Sages who searched with their heart's thought discovered the existent's kinship in the non-existent.
5 Transversely was their severing line extended: what was above it then, and what below it?
There were begetters, there were mighty forces, free action here and energy up yonder
6 Who verily knows and who can here declare it, whence it was born and whence comes this creation?
The Gods are later than this world's production. Who knows then whence it first came into being?
7 He, the first origin of this creation, whether he formed it all or did not form it,
Whose eye controls this world in highest heaven, he verily knows it, or perhaps he knows not.

Rig Veda: Rig-Veda, Book 10: HYMN CXXIX. Creation.

 

[WalterTrull]

Bazinga?? Sheldon??

 

[Altfish]

Perhaps god was Intelligently Designed?

 

[BSM1]

To all my dear creationist friends, I have a simple question which you might divine from the title.

In another thread, I came across a post whose author clearly believes that god created everything including us. What I want to understand is, how come creationists can suspend their disbelief in regards to the origin of god, and yet in the same breath vehemently deny the possibility of origin of life without a creator.

Can someone explain this apparent schizophrenic belief?

And what material did He/She/It use?

 

[David T]

To all my dear creationist friends, I have a simple question which you might divine from the title.

In another thread, I came across a post whose author clearly believes that god created everything including us. What I want to understand is, how come creationists can suspend their disbelief in regards to the origin of god, and yet in the same breath vehemently deny the possibility of origin of life without a creator.

Can someone explain this apparent schizophrenic belief?

Who created the "law of physics?" or accidentalism random chance all identically psychotic as creationism intellect designed . Seems like its all just whacko "normals" just arguing to me. But I am left handed so there ya go!! Then again most people never venture out into the wilderness either. That to is normal.

 

[ExVasterist]

You should ask Mormons this, though they are somewhat more stricter in the "Dos & Don'ts" department, they are actually open to the possibility the God, Abrahamic God, of all creation isn't the first, that even he has a creator & so does that God's creator & so on.
They even entertain the idea that God didn't create everything on his own but had help from Wife.

Also, "creationist" can apply to any belief system that involves a deity that said "I created you and you are my children", Zeus and Amun-Ra have made those same claims as the Christian God, and I bet there are many other pantheon leader Gods that have made the same claim.

And how can we seriously ask that question expecting ANY of us to know? Look at every single deity from every single religion, both the long dead religions, and the current ones.
If say that Deities were NOT imagined by mortals and they've ALWAYS existed before man was born, how the in the hell could anyone living or dead honestly answer such a question?

Even the big bang, it is still just a theory, a guess, we don't actually KNOW 100% that "this is how it happened" cause (and I know this is a dumb answer, but it is the truth) we weren't there when it happened.

It does however beg the question, mainly Zeus and his pantheon: If they rely on our belief to exist, how did they exist if Zeus was our creator? And why did they need to rely on us, our belief in them, to exist when they were born from Gaia & Chronos? These are questions however that can only be answered by the beings themselves cause all we can do is speculate on it and make up differing viewpoint conclusions based on our very very limited understanding of them.

 

[Kenny]

To all my dear creationist friends, I have a simple question which you might divine from the title.

In another thread, I came across a post whose author clearly believes that god created everything including us. What I want to understand is, how come creationists can suspend their disbelief in regards to the origin of god, and yet in the same breath vehemently deny the possibility of origin of life without a creator.

Can someone explain this apparent schizophrenic belief?

I'm not sure but does "apparent schizophrenic belief" mean tha you have already answered you own question?

So... who created that which was necessary to have what we have today? Or did it eternally exist?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

All things that begin to exist require a cause. If God never began to exist, then He does not require a cause.

If God never began to exist, is it possible for him to exist?

Hence certain of his titles: First Cause, Unmoved Mover, etc. The challenge for the skeptic is to demonstrate that an eternally existent being is a logical impossibility.

Actually, the challenge for the monotheist is to demonstrate that one such thing can exist, but more than one is impossible. Good luck with that.

And in the typical context - arguments for the existence of gods - it's up to the theist to demonstrate that "eternally existent beings" are possible. If that isn't done, then we're still left at "God may or may not exist," which was our position even before the attempted proof of God.

The skeptic's position isn't "God must not exist;" it's "when you say 'God must exist,' I don't find it convincing."