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Is Theology Science?

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
1) write 100 times on the blackboard "God of Theism exists." By this way you get the energy and momentum to go through the proof of God:

A) God is omniscient, so He is the perfect specialist to ask His opinion. His opinion is always true and right.
B) Ask Him, does He exist or not. He will certainly answer "Yes, the God of Theism is existent." Proof ends.

In short: The All-Knowing knows everything, and that the Omniscient exists. Therefore the Omniscient exists. Now, if this proof is not true, then it is not true to the All-Knowing. And if so, the Omniscient exists. "Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil" John 8: 43,44.

For those who do not understand: The All-knowing (if it turns out that such exists) knows everything, knows that the Omniscient exists. Hence, among all knowledge there is knowledge about the existence of the All-Knowing. Therefore the Omniscient really does exist.
 
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dfnj

Well-Known Member
1) write 100 times on the blackboard "God of Theism exists." By this way you get the energy and momentum to go through the proof of God:

A) God is omniscient, so He is the perfect specialist to ask His opinion. His opinion is always true and right.
B) Ask Him, does He exist or not. He will certainly answer "Yes, the God of Theism is existent." Proof ends.

It's a good proof. But I have simpler proof. God is just a word. What the word means is defined by its usage. That is ALL god is. God only exists in our use of language.

God is different than every other word in our language in the following sense. God represents every possible idea that can be thought of and also every possible reality that can be experienced. God is the one word that represents them all. So in our effort to imagine infinity, or nothingness, we experience God in our minds.

So what does it all mean? It's all good.
 
Back in ye olde days it was considered the queen of sciences. Before you were even allowed to study theology at university, you had to learn 'lesser' subjects like logic, natural philosophy and the works of the ancient Greeks (especially Aristotle).

Times have changed though, as have the sciences. So, no.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
1) write 100 times on the blackboard "God of Theism exists." By this way you get the energy and momentum to go through the proof of God:

A) God is omniscient, so He is the perfect specialist to ask His opinion. His opinion is always true and right.
B) Ask Him, does He exist or not. He will certainly answer "Yes, the God of Theism is existent." Proof ends.

A false God can pretty much say what ever you need them to say to support your faith.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
A false God can pretty much say what ever you need them to say to support your faith.
In short: The All-Knowing knows everything, and that the Omniscient exists. Therefore the Omniscient exists. Now, if this proof is not true, then it is not true to the All-Knowing. And if so, the Omniscient exists. "Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil" John 8: 43,44.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
1) write 100 times on the blackboard "God of Theism exists." By this way you get the energy and momentum to go through the proof of God:

A) God is omniscient, so He is the perfect specialist to ask His opinion. His opinion is always true and right.
B) Ask Him, does He exist or not. He will certainly answer "Yes, the God of Theism is existent." Proof ends.

In short: The All-Knowing knows everything, and that the Omniscient exists. Therefore the Omniscient exists. Now, if this proof is not true, then it is not true to the All-Knowing. And if so, the Omniscient exists. "Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil" John 8: 43,44.

The worst argument that I have heard in a while. It is simple a poorly worded assertion.

I believe in God, and theology is not remotely science.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
1) write 100 times on the blackboard "God of Theism exists." By this way you get the energy and momentum to go through the proof of God:

A) God is omniscient, so He is the perfect specialist to ask His opinion. His opinion is always true and right.
B) Ask Him, does He exist or not. He will certainly answer "Yes, the God of Theism is existent." Proof ends.
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In A, He is the perfect specialist *if He exists*. In B, He can answer only if He exists.

You are assuming your conclusion.

No, theology is not a science: it is never testable.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Is Theology Science?

It depends what's meant by theology.

Science requires something objective to examine - something apprehensible to the naked or assisted senses.

One can study the religions, their histories, their belief sets, etc.. by examining their holy books, relevant historical documents, and other physical manifestations of religion.

Academic studies in comparative religion, the Bible as literature, the history of Buddhism, etc.. - the result of such inquiry - are scientific as long as they continue to consider an aspect of reality dispassionately by examining its discernible elements. It's just history or archeology.

If one calls that theology, then yes, there is a scientific aspect to at least some of it.

What I generally mean by theology is the works of believers that have assumed the existence of a god, such as the writings of Augustine or Luther, or the musings of the medieval scholastic philosophers, who famously once considered how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. This is the consideration of the nature of gods rather than religions, and is certainly not science, which requires skepticism and empiricism at every juncture.

Once faith enters the picture, it is no longer science, nor an academic subject.
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Back in ye olde days it was considered the queen of sciences. Before you were even allowed to study theology at university, you had to learn 'lesser' subjects like logic, natural philosophy and the works of the ancient Greeks (especially Aristotle).

Times have changed though, as have the sciences. So, no.
Our definition of science constantly changes. If we allow the definition to be " what ever our world view is at the a moment, is projected onto nature." that has not changed in the least. That process of capturing reality in spells, this spells binder thats now digital is rather facinating topic to me.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
Theology relies on reason as evidence more than evidence providing reason imo.

My religion is virtue. In my virtuology I study the causes and effects, and standards of virtue, and try to determine the truest measure of virtue.
 
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