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Predestination?

In my early days of being a narrow-minded Biblist I surmised that the paths were predetermined but man had a choice. After years of Don Quixote like attempts at trying to splain otherwise, I have come to see that some people just ain't gunna understand faith. It's like they're unequiped to process it.

What say you?

Perdestination=Nihilism
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
In my early days of being a narrow-minded Biblist I surmised that the paths were predetermined but man had a choice. After years of Don Quixote like attempts at trying to splain otherwise, I have come to see that some people just ain't gunna understand faith. It's like they're unequiped to process it.

What say you?

I'd ask if you have faith in all things or if you were selective.
If selective, I'd ask how you select.
 

james bond

Well-Known Member
Faith is easy and practiced by all predestination is not, why predestination for the individual came to be is beyond me.

Faith isn't easy. It especially isn't easy when there is a gun pointing at your head. People have died for their faiths. Your first statement explains your last statement. It's circular reasoning.
 

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
Definition of faith: the human capacity for credulity that enables one to make the quantum leap from the barely believable to the totally bloody ridiculous...yep - I guess you're right - some of us just don't have it. Thank God!
You made that up.
 

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
Faith is easy and practiced by all predestination is not, why predestination for the individual came to be is beyond me.
I used to know someone who couldn't say mayonaisse properly. It came out, "mayernaise." Reminds me of the shibboleth story in the OT. Some people just can't. Like it's predestined.
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
In my early days of being a narrow-minded Biblist I surmised that the paths were predetermined but man had a choice. After years of Don Quixote like attempts at trying to splain otherwise, I have come to see that some people just ain't gunna understand faith. It's like they're unequiped to process it.
Have you considered the possibility that at least some actually understand it perfectly well but you’re unequipped to process their understanding? Claiming to have an definitive answer and dismissing any question or challenge with the idea that the asked is simply incapable of understanding is the height of arrogance.
 

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
Have you considered the possibility that at least some actually understand it perfectly well but you’re unequipped to process their understanding? Claiming to have an definitive answer and dismissing any question or challenge with the idea that the asked is simply incapable of understanding is the height of arrogance.
It could also just be an observation.

Or arrogance. I'm capable of both.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
It's a choice you have to desire to have, otherwise the choice is rejected.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
Faith isn't easy. It especially isn't easy when there is a gun pointing at your head. People have died for their faiths. Your first statement explains your last statement. It's circular reasoning.

Faith to me means far more than just faith in God for example faith in self.
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
In my early days of being a narrow-minded Biblist I surmised that the paths were predetermined but man had a choice. After years of Don Quixote like attempts at trying to splain otherwise, I have come to see that some people just ain't gunna understand faith. It's like they're unequiped to process it.

What say you?

Unequipped or unwilling?
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
In my early days of being a narrow-minded Biblist I surmised that the paths were predetermined but man had a choice. After years of Don Quixote like attempts at trying to splain otherwise, I have come to see that some people just ain't gunna understand faith. It's like they're unequiped to process it.

What say you?
"We believe "325 ad nicea has metamorphed into i believe today. So the non faith are just very Nicene individually. Atheism is very nicene.
 
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