The flood of Noah's

[shunyadragon]

Thank you for the comment.

I have come across many people that will go by different Translations, This only tells me that they are not sure of themselves as to which Translations to go by and that they are in Confusion of not knowing which Translation to go by.

I will not follow them into their confusion.

I myself has been there and done that, So now I only go by one Translation the
KJV 1611.

So when people post different Translations, this only tells me, they are in confusion of not knowing which Translation they want to go by, trying to put others into their confusion with them.

Thank you again for your comment.

I do not think different translation cause the confusion you assert. The KJV is ok and and does not change anything. The name of a coastal region does mean it was occupied when the descendants of Noah moved in as per Genesis 10-5. The KJV is a nice read in King James era English, but it does contain errors and translations problems, and is nothing special as per translation.

 

[Faithofchristian]

No; you will lead the way. KJV-onlyism is dumb as rocks.

That is only because you don't understand the KJV 1611, That's why people like you, will use many other Translations, of not being sure of yourself as to which translation to go by, thereby putting you in confusion

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

That is only because you don't understand the KJV 1611,

Quite the contrary.

 

[shunyadragon]

That is only because you don't understand the KJV 1611, That's why people like you, will use many other Translations, of not being sure of yourself as to which translation to go by, thereby putting you in confusion

Understand?!?!? That is a vague anecdotal claim without foundation.

What specifically would be different understanding between the KJV, and more recent annotated translations derived from more references? In fact the contemporary revised KJV does footnote, and document the errors and translation issues of the original KJV. Are you familiar with the fact that the KJV does contain errors confirmed when more sources are compared.

The different translations cited do not change anything as to the understanding of Genesis 10:5.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Understand?!?!? That is a vague anecdotal claim without foundation.

What specifically would be different understanding between the KJV, and more recent annotated translations derived from more references? In fact the contemporary revised KJV does footnote, and document the errors and translation issues of the original KJV. Are you familiar with the fact that the KJV does contain errors confirmed when more sources are compared.

The different translations cited do not change anything as to the understanding of Genesis 10:5.

That's because at the time the KJV being Translated into English, They did not have the necessary tools to work with. They did the best they could with what tools they had at the time.

Where as to day we have many tools to work with to Translate the Hebrew and Greek language into English.

This is why Bullinger came out with the Companion bible, that gives the Hebrew and Greek Translations into the English language.
There is also the Strong's Concordance that gives the Hebrew and Greek Translations.

 

[David T]

We are told by man's teachings and many Christians saying, that no one survived the flood of Noah's and that the flood of Noah's covered the whole earth.

If this is true, Why is it written in the book of Genesis saying otherwise ?

Let's go to the book of Genesis Chapter 10 and discover what really happened ?

Starting with Verse 1--> We find here that Noah had 3 sons, Shem, Ham, Japheth and unto them were born sons after the flood.

Verse 2--> Japheth had 7 sons, Gomer, Magog, ,Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, Tiras.

Verse 3--> And Gomer had 3 sons, Ashkenaz, Riphath, Togarmah.

Verse 4--> Javan had 4 sons, Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, Dodanim.

Verse 5--> now by the sons of Javan, Gomer, and Japheth, were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

Now as man's teachings and many Christians have it that the flood of Noah's covered the whole earth, that no one survived the flood of Noah's.

Now If the flood of Noah's was supposedly to haved covered the whole earth and nothing survived the flood of Noah's ?

The Question is, Where did the isles of the Gentiles come from ?

Therefore, the flood of Noah's, only covered to where Noah and his wife and 3 sons and their wives, were at, Where the wickedness of mankind was Great in the Earth ?

Please Give a scientific synopsis to the story. Its rather easy. The story about 10 15k years old. Which means that it was communicated purely through oral tradition for about 5 10k years.

If you can't do that, then I suggest improving on your science skill sets, and improving on your reading comprehension in regards to these ancient texts. That part requires a whole lot of actual time in nature away from cultural nonsense including science and religion.. Right now your reading of the text is at a southern baptist level in science and religion. That's normal.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Please Give a scientific synopsis to the story. Its rather easy. The story about 10 15k years old. Which means that it was communicated purely through oral tradition for about 5 10k years.

If you can't do that, then I suggest improving on your science skill sets, and improving on your reading comprehension in regards to these ancient texts. That part requires a whole lot of actual time in nature away from cultural nonsense including science and religion.. Right now your reading of the text is at a southern baptist level in science and religion. That's normal.

If only I was a southern Baptist which I am not. I do not belong to any Religious organization

 

[shunyadragon]

That's because at the time the KJV being Translated into English, They did not have the necessary tools to work with. They did the best they could with what tools they had at the time.

Where as to day we have many tools to work with to Translate the Hebrew and Greek language into English.

This is why Bullinger came out with the Companion bible, that gives the Hebrew and Greek Translations into the English language.
There is also the Strong's Concordance that gives the Hebrew and Greek Translations.

This only confirms the need and use of alternate translations, which are related to the sources you cite.

Where is the confusion?!?!?

 

[Faithofchristian]

This only confirms the need and use of alternate translations, which are related to the sources you cite.

Where is the confusion?!?!?

No it only confirms the use of the KJV 1611, by using the Bullinger Companion bible and the Strong's Concordance of the Hebrew and Greek

 

[David T]

If only I was a southern Baptist which I am not. I do not belong to any Religious organization

There is a scientific explanation for the story.

 

[Faithofchristian]

There is a scientific explanation for the story.

Yeah and I know there is a scientific explanation for the story of Noah's. It took water for the ark of Noahs to float.so what's the big deal.

 

[metis]

I guess the big deal is that it is so illogical to be taken as historical fact, plus computer models indicate that a real ark built on the same dimensions is terribly unstable, full or empty. Just ask the one's that built one that stands in Amsterdam harbor whereas they're afraid to even try it out.

It's most likely a Babylonian narrative reworked to reflect Jewish norms and values.

 

[Faithofchristian]

I guess the big deal is that it is so illogical to be taken as historical fact, plus computer models indicate that a real ark built on the same dimensions is terribly unstable, full or empty. Just ask the one's that built one that stands in Amsterdam harbor whereas they're afraid to even try it out.

It's most likely a Babylonian narrative reworked to reflect Jewish norms and values.

Yeah but they left out one major key factor, that the ark of Noahs had, that no matter how many ark's anyone builds, it will not float, unless they put this one key factor in it

 

[2ndpillar]

Look the question is not about Noah's sons.
But about the isles of the Gentiles.

If the flood of Noah's was to cover the whole earth and nothing survived the flood of Noah's.

Where did the isles of the Gentiles come from ?

The sons of Noah were divided into the nations/Gentiles. You get "Jews" after Jacob.

 

[David T]

Yeah and I know there is a scientific explanation for the story of Noah's. It took water for the ark of Noahs to float.so what's the big deal.

Well when you become fluent in science then your "scientific inquiry and questions" about the bible can be taken seriously. I certainly do not rely on ken ham has having a clue to anything about nature or the bible so I would suggest you understand him as not actually understanding the text at all. Now if you insist on aligning your reading comprehension with his to support your perspective in disagreement with him, I would say that's totally normal.

 

[Faithofchristian]

The sons of Noah were divided into the nations/Gentiles. You get "Jews" after Jacob.

The Gentiles were already there, before the sons of Noah went there.

Verse 5 does say -- "By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided"

Therefore the Gentiles were already there before the sons of Noah's went there.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

No it only confirms the use of the KJV 1611, by using the Bullinger Companion bible and the Strong's Concordance of the Hebrew and Greek

I was with you for the most part until you had this weird need to read the KJV. It's not like it'd be the scripture everyone else was reading at the time or anything.

Anyway, the Isle of the Gentiles most likely came from the same magical pocket dimension where Cain's wife came from.

 

[2ndpillar]

The Gentiles were already there, before the sons of Noah went there.

Verse 5 does say -- "By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided"

Therefore the Gentiles were already there before the sons of Noah's went there.

Noah was a Gentile, and so were all of his family. There were no Jews at that time. Everyone was a Gentile, such as being a non Jew.

 

[Faithofchristian]

I was with you for the most part until you had this weird need to read the KJV. It's not like it'd be the scripture everyone else was reading at the time or anything.

Anyway, the Isle of the Gentiles most likely came from the same magical pocket dimension where Cain's wife came from.

You got that Right, People for some reason, think that the flood of Noah's covered the whole earth, But this is not what Genesis chapter 10 Verse 5 reveals,
That the isles of the Gentiles were already there before the sons went there.

The same with Cain's wife, What people can not explain, they add to, just to fit their agenda.
It's easy and simple as to where Cain got his wife from, But as it is people can not see what is before their eyes

Thank you for your complement

 

[Faithofchristian]

Noah was a Gentile, and so were all of his family. There were no Jews at that time. Everyone was a Gentile, such as being a non Jew.

Hey look, Genesis chapter 10 Verse 5 said--
" By these, meaning the sons of Noah's.
The isles of the Gentiles were divided.
Meaning the isles of the Gentiles were already there.
I would like for you to show just one Verse as to where it is written that Noah as being a Gentile as you say.