The flood of Noah's

[Faithofchristian]

We are told by man's teachings and many Christians saying, that no one survived the flood of Noah's and that the flood of Noah's covered the whole earth.

If this is true, Why is it written in the book of Genesis saying otherwise ?

Let's go to the book of Genesis Chapter 10 and discover what really happened ?

Starting with Verse 1--> We find here that Noah had 3 sons, Shem, Ham, Japheth and unto them were born sons after the flood.

Verse 2--> Japheth had 7 sons, Gomer, Magog, ,Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, Tiras.

Verse 3--> And Gomer had 3 sons, Ashkenaz, Riphath, Togarmah.

Verse 4--> Javan had 4 sons, Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, Dodanim.

Verse 5--> now by the sons of Javan, Gomer, and Japheth, were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

Now as man's teachings and many Christians have it that the flood of Noah's covered the whole earth, that no one survived the flood of Noah's.

Now If the flood of Noah's was supposedly to haved covered the whole earth and nothing survived the flood of Noah's ?

The Question is, Where did the isles of the Gentiles come from ?

Therefore, the flood of Noah's, only covered to where Noah and his wife and 3 sons and their wives, were at, Where the wickedness of mankind was Great in the Earth ?

 

[Grandliseur]

We are told by man's teachings and many Christians saying, that no one survived the flood of Noah's and that the flood of Noah's covered the whole earth.

If this is true, Why is it written in the book of Genesis saying otherwise ?

Let's go to the book of Genesis Chapter 10 and discover what really happened ?

Starting with Verse 1--> We find here that Noah had 3 sons, Shem, Ham, Japheth and unto them were born sons after the flood.

Verse 2--> Japheth had 7 sons, Gomer, Magog, ,Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, Tiras.

Verse 3--> And Gomer had 3 sons, Ashkenaz, Riphath, Togarmah.

Verse 4--> Javan had 4 sons, Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, Dodanim.

Verse 5--> now by the sons of Javan, Gomer, and Japheth, were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

Now as man's teachings and many Christians have it that the flood of Noah's covered the whole earth, that no one survived the flood of Noah's.

If the flood of Noah's was supposedly to haved covered the whole earth and nothing survived the flood of Noah's ?

The Question is, Where did the isles of the Gentiles come from ?

Therefore, the flood of Noah's, only covered to where Noah and his wife and 3 sons and their wives, were at, Where the wickedness of mankind was Great in the Earth ?

I don't understand your question.
The three sons of Noah and their wives were the ancestors of all of us. In some cases, the names are still reflected in places and names, though it is difficult to find. I haven't really put much effort into this.

Why is this a problem for you?

 

[Faithofchristian]

I don't understand your question.
The three sons of Noah and their wives were the ancestors of all of us. In some cases, the names are still reflected in places and names, though it is difficult to find. I haven't really put much effort into this.

Why is this a problem for you?

Look the question is not about Noah's sons.
But about the isles of the Gentiles.

If the flood of Noah's was to cover the whole earth and nothing survived the flood of Noah's.

Where did the isles of the Gentiles come from ?

 

[Grandliseur]

Look the question is not about Noah's sons.
But about the isles of the Gentiles.

If the flood of Noah's was to cover the whole earth and nothing survived the flood of Noah's.

Where did the isles of the Gentiles come from ?

Please refer to a scripture or explain clearly. What scripture are you referring to?

 

[Faithofchristian]

Please refer to a scripture or explain clearly. What scripture are you referring to?

You can't be that blind, I put the book of Genesis and the Chapter and Verse's. What more do you need than that

 

[Grandliseur]

You can't be that blind, I put the book of Genesis and the Chapter and Verse's. What more do you need than that

I see what you are referring to. You need to learn to use more than one translation.

Here is the ESV version:
ESV: 5 From these the coastland peoples spread in their lands, each with his own language, by their clans, in their nations.
KJV: 5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.
Darby: 5 From these came the distribution of the isles of the nations, according to their lands, every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.
NWT: From these the population of the isles of the nations was spread about in their lands, each according to its tongue, according to their families, by their nations.
Rotherham: 5 From these, were dispersed [the inhabitants] of the coastlands of the nations, in their lands, each man by his tongue, by their families in their nations.

Once you compare several translations, whatever problem you initially thought existed doesn't any longer.

 

[Faithofchristian]

I see what you are referring to. You need to learn to use more than one translation.

Here is the ESV version:
ESV: 5 From these the coastland peoples spread in their lands, each with his own language, by their clans, in their nations.
KJV: 5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.
Darby: 5 From these came the distribution of the isles of the nations, according to their lands, every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.
NWT: From these the population of the isles of the nations was spread about in their lands, each according to its tongue, according to their families, by their nations.
Rotherham: 5 From these, were dispersed [the inhabitants] of the coastlands of the nations, in their lands, each man by his tongue, by their families in their nations.

Once you compare several translations, whatever problem you initially thought existed doesn't any longer.

Look I use to do that, use many other Translations, but now I use only one the KJV 1611. If you wish to carry about all those other Translations that's you and not me.
So I will stick with one Translation and my Companion bible and the Strong's Concordance of the Hebrew and Greek Translations.

 

[Grandliseur]

You can't be that blind, I put the book of Genesis and the Chapter and Verse's. What more do you need than that

When you consider the scriptures I supplied, the various versions, and remember that about 70 families (if memory serves) spread out over the earth from Babylon, these could be considered 'isles' of nations looking for their final destination to set up a nation. That is how I read it. But, go with the translations that make the most sense, even a combination of these.

 

[Grandliseur]

Look I use to do that, use many other Translations, but now I use only one the KJV 1611. If you wish to carry about all those other Translations that's you and not me.
So I will stick with one Translation and my Companion bible and the Strong's Concordance of the Hebrew and Greek Translations.

That is your choice. But, it is not sufficient to get to the deep subjects, as you can see in this case.

But, that is up to you. If you find something in my posts that you like, use it; otherwise, do as you please. I just tried to assist. That's all folks.

 

[Faithofchristian]

When you consider the scriptures I supplied, the various versions, and remember that about 70 families (if memory serves) spread out over the earth from Babylon, these could be considered 'isles' of nations looking for their final destination to set up a nation. That is how I read it. But, go with the translations that make the most sense, even a combination of these.

That's what you say, but that is not what the book of Genesis Reveals.

As to where you come up with Babylon, There is no where in Genesis Chapter 10 that even mentions Babylon.

 

[shunyadragon]

You can't be that blind, I put the book of Genesis and the Chapter and Verse's. What more do you need than that

Looking at the different translations it does not appear that these isles or coast lands were occupied by gentiles when they moved in. They appear to be the sons of Japheth moing into these lands.

From:
Revised Standard Version (RSV)
5 From these the coastland peoples spread. These are the sons of Japheth in their lands, each with his own language, by their families, in their nations.

 

[Faithofchristian]

That is your choice. But, it is not sufficient to get to the deep subjects, as you can see in this case.

But, that is up to you. If you find something in my posts that you like, use it; otherwise, do as you please. I just tried to assist. That's all folks.

By my Companion Bible and the Strong's Concordance and my KJV 1611 that's all I need to get to the root of things.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Looking at the different translations it does not appear that these isles or coast lands were occupied by gentiles when they moved in. They appear to be the sons of Japheth moing into these lands.

From:
Revised Standard Version (RSV)
5 From these the coastland peoples spread. These are the sons of Japheth in their lands, each with his own language, by their families, in their nations.

Yes they moved into the isles of the Gentiles.
But the question still remains, where did the isles of the Gentiles come from, If the flood of Noah's were to had to destroyed all life and covered the whole earth.

 

[Grandliseur]

That's what you say, but that is not what the book of Genesis Reveals.

As to where you come up with Babylon, There is no where in Genesis Chapter 10 that even mentions Babylon.

The story is not just contained in chapter 10, it is continued in chapter 11:

Genesis 11:
4 And they said, come, let us build us a city, and a tower, whose top [may reach] to heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we should be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. 5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men were building. 6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people [is] one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. 7 Come, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. 8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. 9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel, because the LORD there confounded the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth. (Webster)

Quoting a reference work:
Thus, after listing 70 offspring of the sons of Noah, the Genesis account says: “From these the nations were spread about in the earth.”—Ge 10:32.
JAPHETH GOMER Cimmerians, N of Black Sea
Aryan Branch of Speech: ASHKENAZ SE of Black Sea
Indo-European (14 families) RIPHATH Paphlagonians
TOGARMAH Armenians
MAGOG
MADAI Medes, S of Caspian Sea
JAVAN Ionians, Greeks of SE Europe
ELISHAH Near Greece
TARSHISH Pre-Spanish in SW Europe
KITTIM Cyprus
DODANIM (RODANIM) Island of Rhodes
and Aegean Islands
TUBAL Tibareni, in Asia Minor
MESHECH Phrygians of Asia Minor
TIRAS Tyrrhenians, of the Aegean
Islands and Coastlands
HAM Hamitic Branch of CUSH Ethiopians in E Africa and
Speech: Afro-Asiatic Arabia
(30 families) SEBA In E Africa
HAVILAH In SW Arabia
SABTAH In S Arabia
RAAMAH In SW Arabia
SHEBA In SW Arabia
DEDAN In Arabia
SABTECA In S Arabia or Ethiopia
MIZRAIM Egyptians
LUDIM In N Africa
ANAMIM In Egypt
LEHABIM Libyans
NAPHTUHIM In N Egypt
PATHRUSIM In Upper Egypt
CASLUHIM
PHILISTINES Coastal Plain of
Palestine
CAPHTORIM Cretans
PUT In N Africa
CANAAN W of Jordan River
SIDON Sidonians (Phoenicians)
HETH Hittites
JEBUSITE Around early Jerusalem
AMORITE In Palestine
GIRGA****E W of Jordan River
HIVITE Central Palestine
ARKITE W of the Lebanon Mountains
SINITE
ARVADITE Island off Syrian Coast
ZEMARITE N Phoenician Coast
HAMATHITE N of Palestine
SHEM Semitic Branch of ELAM SE of Mesopotamia
Speech: Asiatic ASSHUR Assyrians
(26 families) ARPACHSHAD
SHELAH
EBER In Arabia and Mesopotamia
PELEG
JOKTAN Arabians
ALMODAD
SHELEPH
HAZARMAVETH
JERAH
HADORAM
UZAL
DIKLAH
OBAL
ABIMAEL
SHEBA
OPHIR
HAVILAH
JOBAB
LUD Lydians of Asia Minor
ARAM Aramaeans, Syrians
UZ
HUL Near Armenia
GETHER
MASH Syro-Arabian Desert or
N Mesopotamia
Other reference works may do a better job.
Noah and Genetics - creation.com


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[shunyadragon]

Yes they moved into the isles of the Gentiles.
But the question still remains, where did the isles of the Gentiles come from, If the flood of Noah's were to had to destroyed all life and covered the whole earth.

Isles or coast lands of the gentiles were obviously no longer occupied by the gentiles.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Look I use to do that, use many other Translations, but now I use only one the KJV 1611.

Bingo!

 

[Faithofchristian]

The story is not just contained in chapter 10, it is continued in chapter 11:

Genesis 11:
4 And they said, come, let us build us a city, and a tower, whose top [may reach] to heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we should be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. 5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men were building. 6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people [is] one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. 7 Come, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. 8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. 9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel, because the LORD there confounded the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth. (Webster)

Quoting a reference work:
Thus, after listing 70 offspring of the sons of Noah, the Genesis account says: “From these the nations were spread about in the earth.”—Ge 10:32.
JAPHETH GOMER Cimmerians, N of Black Sea
Aryan Branch of Speech: ASHKENAZ SE of Black Sea
Indo-European (14 families) RIPHATH Paphlagonians
TOGARMAH Armenians
MAGOG
MADAI Medes, S of Caspian Sea
JAVAN Ionians, Greeks of SE Europe
ELISHAH Near Greece
TARSHISH Pre-Spanish in SW Europe
KITTIM Cyprus
DODANIM (RODANIM) Island of Rhodes
and Aegean Islands
TUBAL Tibareni, in Asia Minor
MESHECH Phrygians of Asia Minor
TIRAS Tyrrhenians, of the Aegean
Islands and Coastlands
HAM Hamitic Branch of CUSH Ethiopians in E Africa and
Speech: Afro-Asiatic Arabia
(30 families) SEBA In E Africa
HAVILAH In SW Arabia
SABTAH In S Arabia
RAAMAH In SW Arabia
SHEBA In SW Arabia
DEDAN In Arabia
SABTECA In S Arabia or Ethiopia
MIZRAIM Egyptians
LUDIM In N Africa
ANAMIM In Egypt
LEHABIM Libyans
NAPHTUHIM In N Egypt
PATHRUSIM In Upper Egypt
CASLUHIM
PHILISTINES Coastal Plain of
Palestine
CAPHTORIM Cretans
PUT In N Africa
CANAAN W of Jordan River
SIDON Sidonians (Phoenicians)
HETH Hittites
JEBUSITE Around early Jerusalem
AMORITE In Palestine
GIRGA****E W of Jordan River
HIVITE Central Palestine
ARKITE W of the Lebanon Mountains
SINITE
ARVADITE Island off Syrian Coast
ZEMARITE N Phoenician Coast
HAMATHITE N of Palestine
SHEM Semitic Branch of ELAM SE of Mesopotamia
Speech: Asiatic ASSHUR Assyrians
(26 families) ARPACHSHAD
SHELAH
EBER In Arabia and Mesopotamia
PELEG
JOKTAN Arabians
ALMODAD
SHELEPH
HAZARMAVETH
JERAH
HADORAM
UZAL
DIKLAH
OBAL
ABIMAEL
SHEBA
OPHIR
HAVILAH
JOBAB
LUD Lydians of Asia Minor
ARAM Aramaeans, Syrians
UZ
HUL Near Armenia
GETHER
MASH Syro-Arabian Desert or
N Mesopotamia
Other reference works may do a better job.
Noah and Genetics - creation.com


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Genesis Chapter 11 is after the sons of Noah's settled in the isles of the Gentiles.

Chapter 10 is after the flood of Noah's. And the sons of Noah's settled in the isles of the Gentiles.

 

[Grandliseur]

Genesis Chapter 11 is after the sons of Noah's settled in the isles of the Gentiles.

Chapter 10 is after the flood of Noah's. And the sons of Noah's settled in the isles of the Gentiles.

I think you need to study on your own. Take care.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Bingo!

Thank you for the comment.

I have come across many people that will go by different Translations, This only tells me that they are not sure of themselves as to which Translations to go by and that they are in Confusion of not knowing which Translation to go by.

I will not follow them into their confusion.

I myself has been there and done that, So now I only go by one Translation the
KJV 1611.

So when people post different Translations, this only tells me, they are in confusion of not knowing which Translation they want to go by, trying to put others into their confusion with them.

Thank you again for your comment.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I will not follow them into their confusion.

No; you will lead the way. KJV-onlyism is dumb as rocks.