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Do you know God?

kjw47

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Please read what you wrote kjw47, and pay attention to it.

You say your slave gives spiritual food at the proper time, when your god wills the truth to be known, correct? And they "corrected" their "errors", correct? Why did they have "errors", did they teach their own understanding, running ahead of your god?





Do you honestly believe that the witnesses are the only ones who don't steal, don't kill, pay their taxes, won't join the military, and don't vote? I think you should do a survey of your org and find out how many have served in the military, who have been in jail, who have voted, and then do a survey of people who are not witnesses to find out who has never been in the military or killed or stole or voted! I think you'll be surprised.

Witnesses are not unique, except in their religious beliefs.



Every teacher on earth ran ahead before the proper time and erred. I know my teachers made correction at the proper time in front of the eyes of all creation. Who else has?
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
Every teacher on earth ran ahead before the proper time and erred.

Then the following is a lie from your "real teachers", correct?

*** w09 2/15 p. 27 par. 12 They “Keep Following the Lamb” ***
12 The faithful slave is also discreet in that it neither acts immodestly, running ahead of Jehovah, nor lags behind when God’s direction on a matter is clear.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Sorry you believe the way you do. Mohammed was a sinner at best--Jesus NEVER sinned.

Mark 10:18King James
18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

It is God that Gives the Message, the Christ Holy Spirit, to whom God Chooses.

None of Gods Messengers have committed sin.

Our part is to accept Gods Covenant.

Regards Tony
 
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Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Using a watchtower magazine--worldwide a JW receives the same spiritual feeding week after week-worldwide. Same bible readings for the week, discussed worldwide, etc.

Trailblazer said: You said "One is." Which religion is Christian and how do you know which one it is?

1 Corinthians 1:10 “Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.”

So you are saying that because there are no divisions among the JWs that means they are the only Christian religion?

That is not logical because Paul was only beseeching that Christians be united. Paul never said that if they were not united they were not Christians. Anyone who believes John 14:6 “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” is a Christian.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
The whole world will see the end of this system shortly.
That is what Christians have been saying for eons, that Jesus is coming, but still no Jesus. Why should anyone believe that Jesus is coming?

Baha’is believe Baha’u’llah was the promised return of Jesus. All the prophecies for the return had been fulfilled by 1844 and all the prophecies for what will happen in the Messianic age are already happening and will continue to unfold during this new age. That is the proof that Baha’u’llah was the return of Jesus with a new name (Rev 2:17, Rev 3:12).

 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Then the following is a lie from your "real teachers", correct?

*** w09 2/15 p. 27 par. 12 They “Keep Following the Lamb” ***
12 The faithful slave is also discreet in that it neither acts immodestly, running ahead of Jehovah, nor lags behind when God’s direction on a matter is clear.


And what year was that?Try living in 2018--the past is dead. God does not hold ones past against them if they move forward. You are though. The opposite of God.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Yes but not in a way you or I can say it will be.

We can safely say it will be in a way that no man has ever thought it will be.

The JW vision is that of men.

Regards Tony


Gods armies--all angelic will remedy this system, lead by Gods appointed king--Jesus.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Trailblazer said: You said "One is." Which religion is Christian and how do you know which one it is?

1 Corinthians 1:10 “Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.”

So you are saying that because there are no divisions among the JWs that means they are the only Christian religion?

That is not logical because Paul was only beseeching that Christians be united. Paul never said that if they were not united they were not Christians. Anyone who believes John 14:6 “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” is a Christian.



Trinitarians do not know the Father( John 15:20-21)--they stop at Jesus and have failed.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
That is what Christians have been saying for eons, that Jesus is coming, but still no Jesus. Why should anyone believe that Jesus is coming?

Baha’is believe Baha’u’llah was the promised return of Jesus. All the prophecies for the return had been fulfilled by 1844 and all the prophecies for what will happen in the Messianic age are already happening and will continue to unfold during this new age. That is the proof that Baha’u’llah was the return of Jesus with a new name (Rev 2:17, Rev 3:12).



The 7 headed beast and 2 horned beast of Rev 13 had to be in place for revelation to be occurring. It has been for years now.
 

dfnj

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The whole world will see the end of this system shortly.

I have a friend who thought Jesus would return in his lifetime. He died 10 years ago. I bet you and I will be long dead and gone before the second coming.

There are a lot of people who think the Rapture happened in 2000 and the remaining people here are just in denial.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I think that if you keep waiting for God to appear to the World then you can never notice God is right with you.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
I have a friend who thought Jesus would return in his lifetime. He died 10 years ago. I bet you and I will be long dead and gone before the second coming.

There are a lot of people who think the Rapture happened in 2000 and the remaining people here are just in denial.


Jesus received his crown here at Revelation 6= the presence. It occurred-1914-1919. He comes to earth at Har-mageddon. 99% will not like that event.
 

dfnj

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Jesus received his crown here at Revelation 6= the presence. It occurred-1914-1919. He comes to earth at Har-mageddon. 99% will not like that event.

Why are you praying for other people to suffer. People claim Christianity is based on love then why are people who follow it are so hateful? I would never pray for the end of the World.

Based on human experiments there is no amount of unnecessary evil God will not tolerate in order to preserve our free-will. God is clearly pro-choice. If man craps in his own bed because people like you want to bring about the end of the world then it will happen. Energy follows thought. I would prefer, however, that you crazy end-of-the-world-speed-up-the-second-coming type people don't try to hurt other people.

So much hate! I really don't like death cults.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Why are you praying for other people to suffer. People claim Christianity is based on love then why are people who follow it are so hateful? I would never pray for the end of the World.

Based on human experiments there is no amount of unnecessary evil God will not tolerate in order to preserve our free-will. God is clearly pro-choice. If man craps in his own bed because people like you want to bring about the end of the world then it will happen. Energy follows thought. I would prefer, however, that you crazy end-of-the-world-speed-up-the-second-coming type people don't try to hurt other people.

So much hate! I really don't like death cults.



I don't want any to miss entrance into Gods kingdom. If eternal suffering is the suffering you mentioned--you believed blind guides.
The bible says--Gods coming kingdom is good news.
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
I don't want any to miss entrance into Gods kingdom. If eternal suffering is the suffering you mentioned--you believed blind guides.
The bible says--Gods coming kingdom is good news.

The Bible was written by men not by God. How else can you explain something so immoral as Peter 2:18 or Judges 19:25-28. You put all your faith in the Bible. I put my faith in God. So my faith in God is stronger than yours. I don't think our God is so petty to make people suffer anything. My faith is in a God of unconditional love for all His creations. My faith is everyone gets to pass through the gates of heaven to experience eternally heavenly bliss regardless of our Earthly sins or how we practiced our religion. You may wish me to suffer eternal damnation because I do not believe the way you do but my faith in God's unconditional love is much strong than your petty hate.
 

kjw47

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The Bible was written by men not by God. How else can you explain something so immoral as Peter 2:18 or Judges 19:25-28. You put all your faith in the Bible. I put my faith in God. So my faith in God is stronger than yours. I don't think our God is so petty to make people suffer anything. My faith is in a God of unconditional love for all His creations. My faith is everyone gets to pass through the gates of heaven to experience eternally heavenly bliss regardless of our Earthly sins or how we practiced our religion. You may wish me to suffer eternal damnation because I do not believe the way you do but my faith in God's unconditional love is much strong than your petty hate.



There are probably many who believe as you do. I have studied the written word of God for years. It doesn't teach what you are saying.
There is no such thing as eternal suffering. All that actually know God knows its fact.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I have studied the written word of God for years. It doesn't teach what you are saying.

Muhammad and His Revelation is in the Bible.

If we have not seen that, will our studies see the vision of what was Christs Return?

Regards Tony
 

kjw47

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Muhammad and His Revelation is in the Bible.

If we have not seen that, will our studies see the vision of what was Christs Return?

Regards Tony


The bible teaches--Jesus is the King of kings. Appointed to that position by God( the ancient of days) Daniel 7:13-15-- The ONE sent forth by God. The name God made above all other names. This is what the whole bible teaches.
 
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