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Name of the Lord

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
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What is the name of the lord from the abrahamic perspective?
To a Jew and maybe a Christian it is YHVH, some Christians think Jesus, where as Muslims think it is Allah.

The reality is much more complex:
  • EL was a Generic name meaning God,
  • Then El became YHVH Elohim (Lord To Be) (Exodus 6:2-3)...
  • Then YHVH said he would become Yeshua (Lord That Saves) (H3444 + H1961 = Exodus 15:2-3, Psalms 118:14-21, Isaiah 12:2).
  • Then Revelation 19:12 says Yeshua has a new name.
In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
Allah just means '[The] God'; it's not a name as such.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
To a Jew and maybe a Christian it is YHVH, some Christians think Jesus, where as Muslims think it is Allah.

The reality is much more complex:
  • EL was a Generic name meaning God,
  • Then El became YHVH Elohim (Lord To Be) (Exodus 6:2-3)...
  • Then YHVH said he would become Yeshua (Lord That Saves) (H3444 + H1961 = Exodus 15:2-3, Psalms 118:14-21, Isaiah 12:2).
  • Then Revelation 19:12 says Yeshua has a new name.
In my opinion. :innocent:

the name of the lord is the name of jehovah. the name of a priest is not priest any more than jehovah is the name of the lord. jehovah is the hebrew word for the english word lord. like kohen is the hebrew word for the english word priest.


jehovah is not the name. lord is a title of a station in an order.
 

Rival

se Dex me saut.
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the name of the lord is the name of jehovah. the name of a priest is not priest any more than jehovah is the name of the lord. jehovah is the hebrew word for the english word lord. like kohen is the hebrew word for the english word priest.


jehovah is not the name. lord is a title of a station in an order.
YHVH is not a title like 'lord'; it is a name. This is why when some people come across 'YHVH' in a text they read 'HaShem' aloud instead, literally meaning The Name (Ha 'The', Shem 'Name').
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
What is your opinion?
obviously the name is not a placeholder in a set, or group.

its not just a name but "the" name

psalms 113:2
Let the name of the LORD be praised, both now and forevermore.


jesus, of course was not "now" during the psalsm 113:2.
again

Isaiah 66:5
Hear the word of the Lord,
you who tremble at his word:
“Your own people who hate you,
and exclude you because of my name, have said,


again

Psalms 23:
he refreshes my soul.
He guides me along the right paths
for his name’s sake.

the name leads to oneness of all in ALL


its alluded to many, many times throughout the OT.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Don't know if you mean God. The name of God is Father. I guess that's from my perspective though.

no, father is a title based on relationship between this thing and some other thing as separated. god is not father or mother. god is the creator father and mother, and creation, or result of itself. it is an involution function and evolution function.


Jeremiah 23:24 tells that god is omnipresent in everything.

Who can hide in secret places
so that I cannot see them?”
declares the Lord.
“Do not I fill heaven and earth?
declares the Lord.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
jehovah is not the name. lord is a title of a station in an order.
H3050 = Yah = Lord as used in Song of Solomon 8:6, where it says 'flame of the Lord.'
H3068 = Yahavah (H3050 + H1933/H1934).

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
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YHVH is not a title like 'lord'; it is a name. This is why when some people come across 'YHVH' in a text they read 'HaShem' aloud instead, literally meaning The Name (Ha 'The', Shem 'Name').
That does not make sense to me! Nobody else interrupts themselves and repeats their name like The LORD does! Moses doesn't say "I am The Moses." David doesn't call himself "The David." Jesus doesn't say "I am The Jesus." Why does 'The LORD' do it, then if its not a title?

Sincerely,
The Brick
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Depends on the specific religion. For example, for Muslims it's "Allah".


allah is simply the word for the english word god. god again is a title that describes a position in an order/group.. it isn't the name.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
H3050 = Yah = Lord as used in Song of Solomon 8:6, where it says 'flame of the Lord.'
H3068 = Yahavah (H3050 + H1933/H1934).

In my opinion. :innocent:

wizander is your name here. if you were a moderator, wizanda is your name. the name isn't moderator, or lord. that is a name for a position. jehovah is a position, a lord. what is the name of all lords.

here are lords that all have "the" same name, singular.

Revelation 14:1
[ The Lamb and the 144,000 ] Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.

the Father's name is not father. the 144,000 is not names, its one name, singular. its not 144,000 jehovahs
 

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
That does not make sense to me! Nobody else interrupts themselves and repeats their name like The LORD does! Moses doesn't say "I am The Moses." David doesn't call himself "The David." Jesus doesn't say "I am The Jesus." Why does 'The LORD' do it, then if its not a title?

Sincerely,
The Brick
He gets The Name because He's special and, more importantly, because it is one name. Just 'Name' could refer to any name, 'The' indicates a specific name.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
YHVH is not a title like 'lord'; it is a name. This is why when some people come across 'YHVH' in a text they read 'HaShem' aloud instead, literally meaning The Name (Ha 'The', Shem 'Name').


god also said....................after he gave the name.............the lord, the god of your fathers. again lord and god are titles, it isn't the name.


god is not the name of their fathers any more than the word lord is the name of their fathers.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
He gets The Name because He's special and, more importantly, because it is one name. Just 'Name' could refer to any name, 'The' indicates a specific name.


and it isn't god or lord in exodus 3:15
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
That does not make sense to me!
then you're getting the point. a title in an order is not the name of the one who takes that position in that order. what then is the order as a whole, ONE. what is the Source of the orders, lord, what is the Name of names

Nobody else interrupts themselves and repeats their name like The LORD does!
a position can be repeated, that which is omnipresent is a paradox. i and the Father are ONE but our positions are linear, paradox. thus "the" name is repeated by the lords and each lord is sent in that name having grasped the names inheritance and having been sent forth in the name. blessed is he who comes in "the" name of the lord.


malachi 2:10 reflects the many from one idea. there are many lords but there is only ONE from which many evolves. all plural comes from "the" ALL singular.


Moses doesn't say "I am The Moses." David doesn't call himself "The David." Jesus doesn't say "I am The Jesus." Why does 'The LORD' do it, then if its not a title?
you are all gods, all lords. the Lord said to my lord so obviously they're are many lords but there is a king of Kings, and lord of lords. moses was sent, david was sent, all prophets are sent in "the" name of lord.


Revelation 17:14
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.


moses was sent as a prophet. david was annointed with the spirit. jesus too.


immersion in "the" name of the Father, Son, and Spirit is not jehovah or lord.
 
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