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Matthew 24: 6-8 check-list

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
I find the Deluge / Flood waters came from the separate water canopy expanse of Genesis 1:7.
The water firmament waters came down from the heavens upon the 'earth-and-water' Earth.
Those above ' flood waters ' later came down as per Genesis 7:10; Genesis 7:11 B; Genesis 8:2.
So, there was both: water on Earth and water in earth's atmosphere. (kind of reminds me of a greenhouse effect)
Please notice Genesis 2:5 because it informs us that God had Not caused it to 'rain' upon the Earth.
The water on Earth is the water of Genesis 2:6. A 'mist ' from earth's waters is what watered the whole face of the ground.
So, it was a ' mist ' and Not rainfall that watered the edenic Earth.
After the Flood is when the sky was then so clear that mankind then saw clear sun and rain.
Before the Flood it was Genesis 2:5 B a ' mist ' watering Earth from earth's already there existing ground waters.


All that you said proves nothing, As to why the water covering the earth in Genesis 1:2

You keep running to all those other Chapters and Verse's, which has nothing at all to do with Chapter 1 Verse 2.

So the question remains, Why would God create the earth and then cover it with water and then come later and have the dry land appear.

You know the dry had to be there first, for the water to cover the earth.

Therefore why God create the earth and then cover it with water.
Why not create the earth, and just put the water in it's rightful place as it is now.

Then to go to all the trouble to create the earth and cover it with water, and then come back later and have the dry land appear, Which the dry land was there in the first place.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
All that you said proves nothing, As to why the water covering the earth in Genesis 1:2
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There was an on-going creative process and God separated the waters of Genesis 1:2 according to Genesis 1:6-7.
Earth was developed in stages that is why there are six creative days. Not everything happened at once.
Since our Creator would have the knowledge to know how best to create something, then in His wisdom He saw a need to let the earth first be water covered in that first creative day before Earth was readied for mankind to inhabit the Earth. That is a whole different covering reason then having the canapy waters come down in Noah's day.
Just think: during Jesus' coming 1,000-year rule over Earth at that time details to questions can be answered.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
You know the dry had to be there first, for the water to cover the earth.
Therefore why God create the earth and then cover it with water.
Why not create the earth, and just put the water in it's rightful place as it is now.
.

Why would there have to be dry land first. A water/earth mixture could exist without dry land first.
I wonder why conclude the water is in its rightful place now.
Sometimes things are just different, and Not just a black and white right or wrong.
There could have been a reason to have Adam and Eve in that ' greenhouse ' environment .
Since new scrolls, new books, will be opened during Jesus' millennium-long day of governing over Earth, then mankind can get detailed answers to questions at that time frame.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
That's what Jesus said to do, ie., "keep on the watch (Matthew 24:42)", after he gave the signs to look for. You posted some great information, but unfortunately, we can see by some of these responses that 2 Peter 3:3-5 is being fulfilled.
Living conditions are bad and getting worse for so many, but it's mostly overlooked. Reminds me of the experiment of the frog put in a pot of hot water: it immediately feels the difference, and jumps out. But then take that same frog, put him in tepid water....if you turn up the heat just a little at a time, he won't recognize the difference. He'll just sit at the bottom till the water is boiled, and he's cooked. I'm sure you see the analogy.
Your post reminded me of what I read once: "1913 was the last normal year in human history."
I thought it was attributed to Historian Arnold Toynbee, but not sure.
I found this -- it represents a lot of research, and it contains a similar phrase. Hope you enjoy it!
(From https://www.quora.com/How-significant-was-the-year-1914-in-human-history)
“Everyone agrees in recognizing that in the whole history of mankind, few dates have had the importance of August 2, 1914.” (Maurice Genevoix, Promise of Greatness)
“Those who lived through the war could never rid themselves of the belief that one world had ended and another begun in August 1914.” (The Generation of 1914, Robert Wohl, Professor of History)
“The whole world really blew up about World War I and we still don’t know why. Before then, men thought that utopia was in sight. There was peace and prosperity. Then everything blew up. We’ve been in a state of suspended animation ever since . . . More people have been killed in this century than in all of history.” (Dr. Walker Percy, American Medical News, November 21, 1977)
“Everything would get better and better. This was the world I was born in. . . . Suddenly, unexpectedly, one morning in 1914 the whole thing came to an end.” (British statesman Harold Macmillan, The New York Times, November 23, 1980)
“The last completely ‘normal’ year in history was 1913, the year before World War I began.” (Times-Herald, Washington, D.C., March 13, 1949)
“In 1914 the world lost a coherence which it has not managed to recapture since. . . . This has been a time of extraordinary disorder and violence, both across national frontiers and within them.” (The Economist)
“The Great War of 1914-18 lies like a band of scorched earth dividing that time from ours. In wiping out so many lives which would have been operative on the years that followed, in destroying beliefs, changing ideas, and leaving incurable wounds of disillusion, it created a physical as well as psychological gulf between two epochs.” (Foreword to The Proud Tower, by Barbara W. Tuchman)
“Ever since 1914, everybody conscious of trends in the world has been deeply troubled by what has seemed like a fated and predetermined march toward ever greater disaster. Many serious people have come to feel that nothing can be done to avert the plunge towards ruin.” (Bertrand Russell, The New York Times Magazine, September 27, 1953)
“Neither the old nor the young had any suspicion that what they were witnessing, during that incomparable season of 1914, was, in fact, the end of an era.” (Before the Lamps Went Out, by Geoffrey Marcus)
“[There was] little or no evidence of a steady rise or a ‘snowballing’ of conflicts and tensions leading directly to the outbreak of war.” On the contrary, “by late 1913 and early 1914 . . . relations among the major powers appeared to be more settled than they had been for many years.” (International Crisis, by Eugenia Nomikos and Robert C. North, 1976)
“The effects of World War I were literally revolutionary and struck deep in the lives of almost all peoples, economically as well as socially and politically.” (Meyers Enzyklopädisches Lexikon)
“The year 1913 marked the close of an era.” (1913 - An End and a Beginning, Virginia Cowles)
“Before 1914 the monetary and the financial systems were compatible. . . . If one takes August 1914 as marking the dividing line between them, the contrasts between the nineteenth and the twentieth centuries are striking. In many aspects of human affairs there has been a complete reversal of trend. . . . One major reason was the severance of the linkage between the financial system and money with intrinsic value that began in 1914. . . . The breaking of the linkage was a momentous event. . . . 1914 marked a radical, and in the end catastrophic, transformation of that system.” (Ashby Bladen, senior vice president The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America)
“By all contemporaneous accounts, the world prior to 1914 seemed to be moving irreversibly toward higher levels of civility and civilization; human society seemed perfectible. The nineteenth century had brought an end to the wretched slave trade. Dehumanizing violence seemed on the decline. . . . The pace of global invention had advanced throughout the nineteenth century, bringing railroads, the telephone, the electric light, cinema, the motor car, and household conveniences too numerous to mention. Medical science, improved nutrition, and the mass distribution of potable water had elevated life expectancy . . . The sense of the irreversibility of such progress was universal.
“World War I was more devastating to civility and civilization than the physically far more destructive World War II: the earlier conflict destroyed an idea. I cannot erase the thought of those pre-World War I years, when the future of mankind appeared unencumbered and without limit. Today our outlook is starkly different from a century ago but perhaps a bit more consonant with reality. Will terror, global warming, or resurgent populism do to the current era of life-advancing globalization what World War I did to the previous one? No one can be confident of the answer.” (Alan Greenspan, The Age of Turbulence: Adventures in a New World, 2007)
“Those who have an adult’s recollection and an adult’s understanding of the world which preceded World War I look back upon it with a great nostalgia. There was a sense of security then which has never since existed.”(Professor Benjamin M. Anderson, Economics and the Public Welfare)
“Historic events are often said to have ‘changed everything.’ In the case of the Great War this is, for once, true. The war really did change everything: not just borders, not just governments and the fate of nations, but the way people have seen the world and themselves ever since. It became a kind of hole in time, leaving the postwar world permanently disconnected from everything that had come before.” (A World Undone, G. J. Meyer, 2006)
“The outbreak of the war in 1914 is the great turning point of the history of humanity. . . . We entered an age of disaster, horror, and hatred, with insecurity everywhere.” (Peter Munch, Danish historian)
“Everywhere, the standards of social behavior—already in decline—were devastated...if the politicians and generals had treated the millions under their care like animals dispatched to slaughter, then what canons of religion or ethics could any longer inhibit men from treating each other with the ferocity of jungle beasts? . . . The slaughter of the First World War thoroughly debased the value of human life.” (Norman Cantor, The Outline of History)
.....there are quite a few more, some highlighting how fast conditions changed, just prior to the WWI outbreak.

Thank you for all the ^ above ^ research.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
There was an on-going creative process and God separated the waters of Genesis 1:2 according to Genesis 1:6-7.
Earth was developed in stages that is why there are six creative days. Not everything happened at once.
Since our Creator would have the knowledge to know how best to create something, then in His wisdom He saw a need to let the earth first be water covered in that first creative day before Earth was readied for mankind to inhabit the Earth. That is a whole different covering reason then having the canapy waters come down in Noah's day.
Just think: during Jesus' coming 1,000-year rule over Earth at that time details to questions can be answered.

But yet you fell to answer the question, Why would an all powerful God, create the earth and then cover the earth with water and then come back later an have the dry land appear, which the dry land was there already in the first place, before the water covered the earth?

Why not just create the earth and put the water in it's rightful place as it is now.

So why would a all powerful God, create the earth and then cover the earth over with water and then come back later, Just to have dry land appear, which the dry land was already there in the first place.before covering the earth with water.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Why would there have to be dry land first. A water/earth mixture could exist without dry land first.
I wonder why conclude the water is in its rightful place now.
Sometimes things are just different, and Not just a black and white right or wrong.
There could have been a reason to have Adam and Eve in that ' greenhouse ' environment .
Since new scrolls, new books, will be opened during Jesus' millennium-long day of governing over Earth, then mankind can get detailed answers to questions at that time frame.

Are you freaking kidding me, since God caused the dry land to appear, that means the earth was already there under the water.
There was No mixture water/earth as your trying to say.
If you look at the Ocean's around the earth, how they are fix around the land.
So why would a all powerful God create the earth and then cover the earth with water and then come back later and have the dry land appear out of the water.

Why not just put the Ocean's as to where they are now, with the land around the Ocean's as they are now.

There's a reason why the earth was covered with water. And it's all foretold throughout the Bible.

Then to create the earth and then cover it with water and then come back later to have the dry land appear, which the dry land was there in the first place.

It's evident that your like the other young earth creationists, that has no concept of how old the earth is exactly.

You believe, taught that everything started with Adam and Eve.
But still the dinosaurs bones stands there proving your young earth Theory to be wrong.
You can not take something such as the he dinosaurs bones which date back to Millions if not Billions of years ago, and get them to fit into 6000 years, that's totally impossible.
But you can take 6000 and fit it into Millions to Billion of years.

There was a time before this earth age came into being, to where the dinosaurs roam the Earth. Which is called the first earth age and you have the paleontologist scientist and the archaeologist scientist and Christians scientist that all agree that the dinosaurs bones do date back to Millions to Billions of years old.
That now as humans beings, We are in the second earth age. The third earth age will be ushered in at Jesus 2nd coming, When Jesus establish his kingdom here on earth.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
6 You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet.7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.

In these Bible verses we read that the disciples asked Jesus when this system would end, but he didn’t give them a date. He did however mention some things that would happen around that time: signs to look for that would give people an idea of the times they would be living in.

But are those things actually happening or are we, Bible believers, being deceived by our wishful thinking? Let’s have a look at the 3 signs highlighted.


1 - Is there conflict in different parts of the world?

While some parts of the world are in peace and have been without armed conflicts for many years, others have indeed been experiencing one conflict after the other.
In this chart from History Today, we can see the gradual increase in wars, especially since the beginning of the 19th century Alarming increase in wars | History Today.

Further information can be found on List of ongoing armed conflicts - Wikipedia and Global Conflict Tracker.

This article from the Independent is more than one year old, but it also makes some important points: There are now only 10 countries in the whole world that are fully at peace.


2 – Are there food shortages?

The fight to end hunger has been ongoing for a very long time, with some victories and some losses.
For some time it looked like things were heading in the right direction. In 2011 there were more people suffering from obesity than hunger, which might seem like good news, but maybe it’s not. First of all, being obese is not a good thing, second, the percentage of people starving is huge and with more armed conflicts and weather changes displacing more and more people, famine will continue to increase despite the efforts being made by numerous entities to end it.

Please see the following for more information:

World hunger again on the rise, driven by conflict and climate change, new UN report says

Famine Is on the Rise Around the World — and Climate Change Is to Blame

Famine looms in four countries as aid system struggles to cope, experts warn

UN Aid Chief: 20 Million People in 4 Countries Face Starvation, Famine


3 – Are there earthquakes in “one place after another”?

Yes, and so it has been for a long time, as we can see in the following articles:

Is earthquake activity increasing? | British Geological Survey (BGS)

https://www.oceannetworks.ca/are-earthquakes-rise

Are earthquakes increasing? Not sure. This one is a bit trickier because an accurate measurement of earthquake frequency and intensity has only been around for a few centuries. Since the earth is much older than that, it makes statistics subject to doubts.
It seems like things have been stable, but we have the impression that there are more earthquakes because of highly populated areas that make for more victims, and better information networks to tell us about it.

There are predictions for an increase in 2018: Upsurge in big earthquakes predicted for 2018 as Earth rotation slows, Volcanoes and Earthquakes Are Increasing—But Why?. Let’s see how that goes.

I don’t know if Jesus was referring exclusively to earthquakes or natural disasters in general. If he was talking about natural disasters, the last couple of years have been off the charts, with 2017 being particularly catastrophic with total economic losses toping 300 billion dollars (Global Disasters Wreaked Havoc In 2017 - Total Economic Losses Top $300 Billion)
I just think it's a way of using commonly known events to get people with low standards for believability oooh-ing and awe-ing. It's easy to make prophecies like that.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
I believe the signs of which you speak are in reference to the destruction of the temple which occurred in 70AD.

Mat 24: 2 But he answered and said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be?
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
I think you have all got strange ideas about what prophesy is for. Its not for predicting things. Its for criticizing the way things are being done. Often a prophecy is set into poetry. I think its in poetry so that people will read it. It also is in story form or describes amazing visual images. There's no TV. There are no photographs, so the prophets employ the human mind instead.

I strongly recommend no longer trying to view prophecy as a crystal ball, so that its easier to come to terms with its demanding moral call.

I believe that is shortsighted.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Why not just put the Ocean's as to where they are now, with the land around the Ocean's as they are now.

Well, I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make, but the geography is different today....there are marine fossils found on top of the Himalayas, the Atlas range, etc., indicating those areas were once under water.

And more water has been discovered on this planet, more than was ever previously known, back in 2013.

Google “ringwoodite”.... it’s quite interesting!
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
I believe the signs of which you speak are in reference to the destruction of the temple which occurred in 70AD.

Mat 24: 2 But he answered and said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be?

You left out the part where they continued..."what will be the sign of your "presence" (parousia does not mean "coming") and the conclusion of the age?"

This prophesy had a much wider application than just the destruction of Jerusalem and its temple. This takes us to the future return of Christ.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Well, I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make, but the geography is different today....there are marine fossils found on top of the Himalayas, the Atlas range, etc., indicating those areas were once under water.

And more water has been discovered on this planet, more than was ever previously known, back in 2013.

Google “ringwoodite”.... it’s quite interesting!

The point that I'm making, is that there was a flood way before Adam and Eve.
That's why in Genesis 1:2 we find water covering the earth.Until Verse 9, and God had the dry land appear.

That's why we find in 2 Peter Chapter 3, that Peter wrote about, The world that then was being overflowed with water perished.

That's why in Genesis Chapter 1, We find water covering the earth.because the world that then was being overflowed with water perished.
The earth being overflowed with water is what caused the destruction of the dinosaurs.Million if not Billions of years ago.
Look all scientist agree that about a Million or so years ago, a Meteorite hit the earth out in the Mexican desert that now scientist find the crater of that Meteorite out in the Mexican desert.
Which caused the Ocean's to overflowed the earth and caused earthquakes and volcanoes to erupted.that caused the destruction of the dinosaurs and all life Millions of years ago.
That now scientist find some of the dinosaurs Remains buried in the earth.under volcano Ash.

That now we find many places in the Bible speaking about that world that then was being overflowed with water perished.

That now to day scientist find the remain's of the dinosaurs bones from that world that then was being overflowed with water perished.
And the dinosaurs bones giving witness to the fact about a world that then was of Millions if not Billions of years ago. Before this world that we live in came to be.
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
You believe, taught that everything started with Adam and Eve.
But still the dinosaurs bones stands there proving your young earth Theory to be wrong.
You can not take something such as the he dinosaurs bones which date back to Millions if not Billions of years ago, and get them to fit into 6000 years, that's totally impossible.
But you can take 6000 and fit it into Millions to Billion of years.
There was a time before this earth age came into being, to where the dinosaurs roam the Earth. Which is called the first earth age and you have the paleontologist scientist and the archaeologist scientist and Christians scientist that all agree that the dinosaurs bones do date back to Millions to Billions of years old.
That now as humans beings, We are in the second earth age. The third earth age will be ushered in at Jesus 2nd coming, When Jesus establish his kingdom here on earth.

Please, please, please do Not put words in my mouth which were never there.
I never ( repeat never ) was taught, nor never would think to say 6,000 years.
There is No record in Genesis or elsewhere that each of the 'creative days' were one-thousand years long.
As a matter of fact there is Nothing to indicate as to whether each of the creative days were of the same length of time or were of differing time lengths. So, No way 6,000 years.
Even God's servant Paul at Hebrews 4:4-11 shows that God's ' Rest Day ' was more than a thousand years long because God's Rest Day was still on-going in Paul's day.

As we know there is No mixing of dinosaur bones with human bones.
Adam was Not here when the dinosaurs were here.

The millennial age will be ushered in at the soon coming 'time of separation' on Earth as per Matthew 25:31-33.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Well, I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make, but the geography is different today....there are marine fossils found on top of the Himalayas, the Atlas range, etc., indicating those areas were once under water.
And more water has been discovered on this planet, more than was ever previously known, back in 2013.
Google “ringwoodite”.... it’s quite interesting!

Whether discovered or not, everything on Earth that is on Earth today has always been here.
Oops! I guess I should add ' except ' for the stuff mankind has sent to outer space or the Moon and Mars, etc.
Does that mean mankind is making Earth lighter than it should be ?
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I believe the signs of which you speak are in reference to the destruction of the temple which occurred in 70AD.
Mat 24: 2 But he answered and said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be?

I find the first or ' minor ' fufillment of Matthew 24 and Luke 21 happened in the year 70 when the Roman armies destroyed un-faithful Jerusalem.
The second or 'MAJOR' fulfillment is for our day or time frame - Revelation 24:21-22; Revelation 19:14-16.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
The point that I'm making, is that there was a flood way before Adam and Eve.
That's why in Genesis 1:2 we find water covering the earth.Until Verse 9, and God had the dry land appear.

That's why we find in 2 Peter Chapter 3, that Peter wrote about, The world that then was being overflowed with water perished.

That's why in Genesis Chapter 1, We find water covering the earth.because the world that then was being overflowed with water perished.
The earth being overflowed with water is what caused the destruction of the dinosaurs.Million if not Billions of years ago.
Look all scientist agree that about a Million or so years ago, a Meteorite hit the earth out in the Mexican desert. Which could haved caused the Ocean's to overflowed the earth and caused earthquakes and volcanoes to erupted.that caused the destruction of the dinosaurs and all life Millions of years ago.
That now scientist find some of the dinosaurs Remains buried in the earth.under volcano Ash.
Please, please, please do Not put words in my mouth which were never there.
I never ( repeat never ) was taught, nor never would think to say 6,000 years.
There is No record in Genesis or elsewhere that each of the 'creative days' were one-thousand years long.
As a matter of fact there is Nothing to indicate as to whether each of the creative days were of the same length of time or were of differing time lengths. So, No way 6,000 years.
Even God's servant Paul at Hebrews 4:4-11 shows that God's ' Rest Day ' was more than a thousand years long because God's Rest Day was still on-going in Paul's day.

As we know there is No mixing of dinosaur bones with human bones.
Adam was Not here when the dinosaurs were here.

The millennial age will be ushered in at the soon coming 'time of separation' on Earth as per Matthew 25:31-33.

That's right Adam was not here at the time of the dinosaurs, but man was here at the time of the dinosaurs.
I can only guess this is blowing your mind.
For me to say, that Adam was not here at the time of the dinosaurs, but man was here at the time of the dinosaurs.

Sounds confusing doesn't it. To say Adam was not here, but man was here at the time of the dinosaurs ?

So who's the man that was here at the time of the dinosaurs, we know it wasn't Adam.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Whether discovered or not, everything on Earth that is on Earth today has always been here.
Oops! I guess I should add ' except ' for the stuff mankind has sent to outer space or the Moon and Mars, etc.
Does that mean mankind is making Earth lighter than it should be ?

Are you freaking kidding me.
Let's see, if you had something that weighed a hundred pounds, and you took 20 pounds from it, would it still weigh hundred pounds or less. Go Figure
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
That's right Adam was not here at the time of the dinosaurs, but man was here at the time of the dinosaurs.
I can only guess this is blowing your mind.
For me to say, that Adam was not here at the time of the dinosaurs, but man was here at the time of the dinosaurs.

Sounds confusing doesn't it. To say Adam was not here, but man was here at the time of the dinosaurs ?

So who's the man that was here at the time of the dinosaurs, we know it wasn't Adam.

Confusing isn't the word for it. :confused: There is nothing in scripture to even suggest anything close to what you have posted here.

Where on earth are you getting this stuff? Adam was the first human according to the Bible. There were no humans before him.

The dinosaurs never existed at the same time as man...they were long gone before humans were created. (thankfully) Perhaps they had a role to play in earth's early history....the Bible doesn't say....but man never co-existed with dinosaurs.

There were other sons of God in existence but they were angels, created long before the universe, which we know from the book of Job that they cheered when God completed his material works. (Job 38:4-7)
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Confusing isn't the word for it. :confused: There is nothing in scripture to even suggest anything close to what you have posted here.

Where on earth are you getting this stuff? Adam was the first human according to the Bible. There were no humans before him.

The dinosaurs never existed at the same time as man...they were long gone before humans were created. (thankfully) Perhaps they had a role to play in earth's early history....the Bible doesn't say....but man never co-existed with dinosaurs.

There were other sons of God in existence but they were angels, created long before the universe, which we know from the book of Job that they cheered when God completed his material works. (Job 38:4-7)

That's right Adam was the first human.

But I am not talking about humans,
I'm talking about man and man did coexist with the dinosaurs, but not humans.

Adam was the first human, but then I am not talking about humans.

I'm talking about man, and man did coexist with the dinosaurs.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
That's right Adam was the first human.

But I am not talking about humans,
I'm talking about man and man did coexist with the dinosaurs, but not humans.

Adam was the first human, but then I am not talking about humans.

I'm talking about man, and man did coexist with the dinosaurs.

Can you provide scripture to back up what you are suggesting?

"Man" and "human" are not referring to different creations at different times. The name Adam means "Earthling Man; Mankind; Humankind; from a root meaning “red”"

If Adam is not the forefather of all humanity then why did Jesus come to take on the role of "the last Adam"?

1 Corinthians 15:45, 47 ...."So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living person.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. . . .The first man is from the earth and made of dust; the second man is from heaven."
 
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