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I need help this is not a joke nor drill

Trevor

INeedHelp
THE BACK STORY
I’m 16 years old, never experienced a hallucination, if that’s what this was. Some nights I’m forced to sleep with my mom because she thinks I’m going to kill myself. I’ve got some severe depression in my life and for my mom who found me unconscious on the floor when I was nine from a suicide attempt she doesn’t play that with me. There’s a lot of more stuff on that but That’s not what I’m here for. I know this website is for religious people, I for one have fell off Christianity and this experience may have shot the fear of god into me.
THE INCIDENT
I was awake till 2 AM talking to my mom about all the stuff making me depressed, yesterday was horrible. in fear I wouldn’t sleep well because I haven’t gotten a good nights sleep in 3 or 4 days I took 2 Tylenol PMs which is abnormal for me. Comes 8 AM we’re both asleep, my moms been snoring for hours. All of a fu**** sudden I start to hear words instead of snoring. I don’t remember the first few words but I remember it turned into her flopping while chanting hell, The voice was so demonic.. All of a sudden it stopped and she went back to snoring.. I woke her up, some may think it was careless of me to do I know but I’m not sure if this was a dream. I don’t know if it was some type of half awake half asleep hallucination or something. This feels way too real and I’m extremely frightened.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
You are the author of your own life's story. Consider what happened, then consider various interpretations of what happened. But most importantly, consider the implications of your interpretation. In particular, ask yourself if the story you tell about the incident is helping you or hurting you.

I'm all for respecting the narratives people spin out of their life experiences, but by and large, I frown upon the practice of empowering narratives that are self-sabatoging. At any rate, nobody here can really help you. You'd be best served by working with a professional - a counselor.
 

Trevor

INeedHelp
You are the author of your own life's story. Consider what happened, then consider various interpretations of what happened. But most importantly, consider the implications of your interpretation. In particular, ask yourself if the story you tell about the incident is helping you or hurting you.

I'm all for respecting the narratives people spin out of their life experiences, but by and large, I frown upon the practice of empowering narratives that are self-sabatoging. At any rate, nobody here can really help you. You'd be best served by working with a professional - a counselor.
Thank you for your input, anything is needed and I’m going to take it all the to the heart. I’ve been in and out of counseling since I’ve been nine and it has never helped me. My mom suggested the same thing last night, I’m considering it all, maybe a priest would be the best type of counselor. I’ve had my doubts about god, but I’ve always said if he can prove himself to me I’d follow him like no other. This was almost undeniable proof to me and there’s no doubt in my mind now that he’s real. With Satan comes God, you can’t have one with out the other.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
THE BACK STORY
I’m 16 years old, never experienced a hallucination, if that’s what this was. Some nights I’m forced to sleep with my mom because she thinks I’m going to kill myself. I’ve got some severe depression in my life and for my mom who found me unconscious on the floor when I was nine from a suicide attempt she doesn’t play that with me. There’s a lot of more stuff on that but That’s not what I’m here for. I know this website is for religious people, I for one have fell off Christianity and this experience may have shot the fear of god into me.
THE INCIDENT
I was awake till 2 AM talking to my mom about all the stuff making me depressed, yesterday was horrible. in fear I wouldn’t sleep well because I haven’t gotten a good nights sleep in 3 or 4 days I took 2 Tylenol PMs which is abnormal for me. Comes 8 AM we’re both asleep, my moms been snoring for hours. All of a fu**** sudden I start to hear words instead of snoring. I don’t remember the first few words but I remember it turned into her flopping while chanting hell, The voice was so demonic.. All of a sudden it stopped and she went back to snoring.. I woke her up, some may think it was careless of me to do I know but I’m not sure if this was a dream. I don’t know if it was some type of half awake half asleep hallucination or something. This feels way too real and I’m extremely frightened.

I cannot emphasis this any more than @Quintessence you need to seek serious medical professional help, likely based on your testimony more than just a counselor nor a priest.
 

Trevor

INeedHelp
You are the author of your own life's story. Consider what happened, then consider various interpretations of what happened. But most importantly, consider the implications of your interpretation. In particular, ask yourself if the story you tell about the incident is helping you or hurting you.

I'm all for respecting the narratives people spin out of their life experiences, but by and large, I frown upon the practice of empowering narratives that are self-sabatoging. At any rate, nobody here can really help you. You'd be best served by working with a professional - a counselor.
I honestly believe this entity if real has had hold of my life for all too long. I wasn’t in the right mind the day of attempting it and there’s so much shame in what I did now.. I’ve developed PTSD from it. I’ve read other cases of people who believe they’ve got a powerful entity in their life and it’s almost experience for experience stuff that has happened to me.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
THE BACK STORY
I’m 16 years old, never experienced a hallucination, if that’s what this was. Some nights I’m forced to sleep with my mom because she thinks I’m going to kill myself. I’ve got some severe depression in my life and for my mom who found me unconscious on the floor when I was nine from a suicide attempt she doesn’t play that with me. There’s a lot of more stuff on that but That’s not what I’m here for. I know this website is for religious people, I for one have fell off Christianity and this experience may have shot the fear of god into me.
THE INCIDENT
I was awake till 2 AM talking to my mom about all the stuff making me depressed, yesterday was horrible. in fear I wouldn’t sleep well because I haven’t gotten a good nights sleep in 3 or 4 days I took 2 Tylenol PMs which is abnormal for me. Comes 8 AM we’re both asleep, my moms been snoring for hours. All of a fu**** sudden I start to hear words instead of snoring. I don’t remember the first few words but I remember it turned into her flopping while chanting hell, The voice was so demonic.. All of a sudden it stopped and she went back to snoring.. I woke her up, some may think it was careless of me to do I know but I’m not sure if this was a dream. I don’t know if it was some type of half awake half asleep hallucination or something. This feels way too real and I’m extremely frightened.
Sometimes people talk and move around in their sleep, even sometimes walk. With certain medications like Ambien, there are reports of people devouring the contents of their refrigerator and even driving, with the person having no memory of it. Your mom may have simply had a disturbance in her sleep.
 

Trevor

INeedHelp
I haven’t actually had a counselor, my bad. They where psychologists. Dr. Hutchinson from molines psychiatric group, Dr. Jackie from another place in moline, Patricia something in the same building as my old psychiatrist dr. Naryan. What type of help should I seek?
 

Holdasown

Active Member
If you have severe depression, which it sounds like, you will need to see a counselor or be in a group your whole life. It's a chronic condition that will be with forever. A counselor or a group will help you focus on good stuff, address bad stuff and those who have been down the road with things like this can't talk to you about what may or may not be real. If you have been in flux about god you may see or hear things that are evil that may or may not be accurate. That said if you want some spiritual advice, Frankincense is a resin which drives out malicious energy. You can burn an incense if you want to clean you space. I don't think that is what you should only do.I think it may give you some peace but you should have a counselor who is neutral to address your issues with, your mom while she loves you can't really help you.
 
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Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Thank you for your input, anything is needed and I’m going to take it all the to the heart. I’ve been in and out of counseling since I’ve been nine and it has never helped me.

That's too bad. Sometimes it's a matter of finding the right counselor and needing to bounce between various practitioners until you find a person that seems to really "get" you. That process can certainly be tough to go through. It's also important to remember, I think, that there are often no quick fixes and sometimes there are no fixes. Then it's a matter of taking the lemons to make lemonade, so to speak. I know a person who suffers from permanent depression. There's no fixing it - it will always be with her. She manages it, and still lives a good life. It may be that the issues you have going on won't ever go away, but can be managed successfully. Continuing to work with a counselor probably provides the best route to figuring that out. But it's not the only thing you could do, certainly!


My mom suggested the same thing last night, I’m considering it all, maybe a priest would be the best type of counselor.

That's a possibility. I have mixed feelings about clergy taking on the role of counselors. On the one hand, I don't doubt that it can be useful. Hearing a perspective that resonates with one's own religion is inspiring and can be a source of strength and meaning. On the other hand, I question anyone taking on the role of counseling who lacks professional training in mental health. Some clergy do have that background, but because it isn't required for the job, many of them don't have the credentials.


I honestly believe this entity if real has had hold of my life for all too long. I wasn’t in the right mind the day of attempting it and there’s so much shame in what I did now.. I’ve developed PTSD from it. I’ve read other cases of people who believe they’ve got a powerful entity in their life and it’s almost experience for experience stuff that has happened to me.

You don't talk much about an entity in your opening post. Are you willing and able to clarify?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I haven’t actually had a counselor, my bad. They where psychologists. Dr. Hutchinson from molines psychiatric group, Dr. Jackie from another place in moline, Patricia something in the same building as my old psychiatrist dr. Naryan. What type of help should I seek?
Sounds like you had a good start. Just make sure anyone you do see is licensed to practice in your state, and that they have proper credentials. And keep working at it. They can't fix you, they can only help you help yourself, and you have to help them to do that.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
I haven’t actually had a counselor, my bad. They where psychologists. Dr. Hutchinson from molines psychiatric group, Dr. Jackie from another place in moline, Patricia something in the same building as my old psychiatrist dr. Naryan. What type of help should I seek?
These people can't help you if you aren't willing to engage with them, fully. Also, sometimes it takes a few tries to find the right 'fit'. But you aren't going to be able to work this out on your own. Nor is any priest equipped to help you, and in trying could do far more harm than good. You need serious, professional help. Keep looking, keep trying.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
That's too bad. Sometimes it's a matter of finding the right counselor and needing to bounce between various practitioners until you find a person that seems to really "get" you. That process can certainly be tough to go through. It's also important to remember, I think, that there are often no quick fixes and sometimes there are no fixes. Then it's a matter of taking the lemons to make lemonade, so to speak.
That is worth repeating a hundred times.
 

Trevor

INeedHelp
That's too bad. Sometimes it's a matter of finding the right counselor and needing to bounce between various practitioners until you find a person that seems to really "get" you. That process can certainly be tough to go through. It's also important to remember, I think, that there are often no quick fixes and sometimes there are no fixes. Then it's a matter of taking the lemons to make lemonade, so to speak. I know a person who suffers from permanent depression. There's no fixing it - it will always be with her. She manages it, and still lives a good life. It may be that the issues you have going on won't ever go away, but can be managed successfully. Continuing to work with a counselor probably provides the best route to figuring that out. But it's not the only thing you could do, certainly!
That's a possibility. I have mixed feelings about clergy taking on the role of counselors. On the one hand, I don't doubt that it can be useful. Hearing a perspective that resonates with one's own religion is inspiring and can be a source of strength and meaning. On the other hand, I question anyone taking on the role of counseling who lacks professional training in mental health. Some clergy do have that background, but because it isn't required for the job, many of them don't have the credentials.

You don't talk much about an entity in your opening post. Are you willing and able to clarify?
I greatly appreciate the time you’re taking to help me. You’re being of great help as is everyone on this thread. My depression starting to spiral out of control I’m going to look for help. As for the entity I may believe I have, there’s many reasons I believe there may be one. When I was 9 the reason I started noticing my depression more is because all of my grand parents had passed within a month, my dad went to prison the same month and my dog ran away. I was in the back room of my house, playing on a wii. In my head was myself saying “you won’t do it *****”. I grabbed the wii nunchuck without thought and used the cord with it to make a noose in the closet. I then put my head in it and made my legs collapse. My body of course tried to prevent me from killing myself but that voice in my head “you won’t follow through *****” prevented me from standing up. I went unconscious and broke the cord, my mother found me unconscious and not breathing on the floor. Upon waking me up my eye blood vessels had popped, my faces blood vessels popped and my neck was swollen beyhond belief. Ever since every time I see someone hung on a movie or a noose or anything resembling that certain way of death I feel some insanely strong shame in myself. I get flashbacks constantly and this may sound childish but yes, I’ve developed an insane fear of closets I have to have them closed at night and I don’t like going into them. When I get real angry about something the thoughts in my head aren’t normal. Now there’s some who will say “psychotic get medical help”, there’s some who will say “demon get a priests help” and some who will say to get both. I honestly don’t know what it is. I could be psychotic, I could have a demon in my life. THOUGH lately with my rough sleep has been a very rough eating habit too. I’ve only been eating small ammounts of food and only once a day... most possessions end in death by malnutrition and it’s starting to make me worried.
 

lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
I do not know of any 16 year old male who should be sleeping with his mother. That is enough to cause problems all by itself. You must find professional help and a bed of your own.
 

Trevor

INeedHelp
I do not know of any 16 year old male who should be sleeping with his mother. That is enough to cause problems all by itself. You must find professional help and a bed of your own.
Did you not read any of what I said? She doesn’t let me sleep by myself when I’ve had extreme events happen because she doesn’t trust me.
 

Trevor

INeedHelp
I do not know of any 16 year old male who should be sleeping with his mother. That is enough to cause problems all by itself. You must find professional help and a bed of your own.
It’s not every night my moms in here with me, I’m not sure though how bad these are going to get while I’m by myself because if it can’t use my mom to scare me what will it use?
 

Trevor

INeedHelp
I feel extremely vulnerable, though if it’s real that’s exactly what it wants it’s hard not to feel that way. I’m reading a bible as I type and I’m trying to find cleansing verses. I’ve lived my past few years of sin believing there is no god I won’t lie. I’ve been in fights, I’ve been even expelled from my high school but I want to change my ways. This was a life changing experience and I’m about to become a very devout Christian. Not at the fear this has struck but because for me this is undeniable proof. As I’ve always said if god proved he’s real I’d believe through whatever circumstances. Dream, or not this experience is going to make me a better person.
 

Araceli Cianna

Active Member
Depression can come with psychotic experiences. It happened to me, so I understand. I have suffered far worse than you, not that it's a competition, but I finally realised they were hallucinations and not spiritual experiences. As others have said, it's better you talk to a professional about this, rather than see it as something paranormal. A good therapist and the right medication solved a lot of my problem.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
I feel extremely vulnerable, though if it’s real that’s exactly what it wants it’s hard not to feel that way. I’m reading a bible as I type and I’m trying to find cleansing verses. I’ve lived my past few years of sin believing there is no god I won’t lie. I’ve been in fights, I’ve been even expelled from my high school but I want to change my ways. This was a life changing experience and I’m about to become a very devout Christian. Not at the fear this has struck but because for me this is undeniable proof. As I’ve always said if god proved he’s real I’d believe through whatever circumstances. Dream, or not this experience is going to make me a better person.
My suggestion would be to stop 'chasing it', whatever it is. Put the Bible away, along with your imaginative speculations, and practice ways of relaxing. Focus on the here and now. Focus on normalcy. Focus on calm. Repetition often helps with this. Leave the "demons" alone.

Find a professional and deal with the "demons" only with their help and input.
 

Akivah

Well-Known Member
This was almost undeniable proof to me and there’s no doubt in my mind now that he’s real. With Satan comes God, you can’t have one with out the other.
You may have fell off of christianity, but you are still saddled with their theology. This would not be the conclusion reached by non-christians or even other christians.
 
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