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Is consciousness a reality unto itself?
as an example dream time.
Is consciousness a reality unto itself?
as an example dream time.[/QUOTE
"I am the dream, and I am alive"
I am life l, I know my place.
Cant be... we are it we can't say that is it. A bit like pointing to the brain and saying "higher functioning region" that is not and cannot be true and is purely an old church statement and nothing more.Being conscious is reality. "Consciousness" isn't a thing unto itself that we can point at and say, "That's a reality unto itself."
So there is you and then all void around you. Just based on the tiny bit we know about evolution no void thus false.There is IMO a self conscious reality. I think most see this as a "world view". A conceptualize reality of one's self identity, how reality works/should work and your place/purpose in it.
Dream time is just a raw narrative created by your subconscious mind. The conceptualize reality of the self is usually not present at these time. Though occasionally some folks have lucid dreams where their identity remains intact.
This concept of self is all imagined. Things that occur in actual reality we see as happening to this conceptualize self.
Once you realize the self is a concept you can become more creative with it. The self and the world it lives in is kind of a virtual reality. You can place yourself in the past or future. A lot of people do this anyway their just not doing it willfully. Daydreaming, tapping into a subconscious narrative they aren't actually in control of.
I think is is possible to take control of this narrative. Within this virtual reality of the mind, you can create any self, any reality that you want.
What's really cool are those people who can create something in this virtual reality and cause it to exist in the actual reality. Inventors, scientists, engineers.
So there is you and then all void around you. Just based on the tiny bit we know about evolution no void thus false.
What experience doesn't exist neurologicalally? In order for the statement to have validity other than simply being obvious and self evident it has to have some idea that there is that there such a reality magically independent from neurology. So the statement is not objective it's neurology pointing at neurology claiming experience only exists in neurology. That's clearly false with a simple walk in natureDreams are produced in the brain and so exist as brain states and are part of reality.
That doesn't mean the experiences in dreams are non-fiction.
We have never measured void. It can't be measured. It was argued and still is in Christianity the trinity. Three separate? I say three part singular.Which tiny bit is that?
We have never measured void. It can't be measured. It was argued and still is in Christianity the trinity. Three separate? I say three part singular.
I am the dream,
I am.
ALIVE!
Three individuals are they separate or is it a singular statement. Each stands on its own but all three make up a single statement as well. Christianity has been dealing with local, non local for 2,000 years. With not much clarity I might add.
What is life? What is ALIVE? only one region of the cranium is confused its the self labeled "higher functioning" region. Its dysfunction in based on its self identity "higher functioning, name itself. Its primative its the youngest aspect of evoution on the entire planet and its pretending its the profound of evolution or of God. Nonsense and not even scientific or anything but fantasy. It does not know its place. It strangles the rest of the brain it's acting as a bottleneck. Like an air filter on a car engine gone horribly bad. Or a potted plant.
Is consciousness a reality unto itself?
as an example dream time.
Exactly. The region of the brain that self labels itself "higher functioning" is deeply effected enviromentally and that's historically. It's the frozen cold rock to the fire in the volcano. It believes it is separate from the fire. That's freud in context to the unconscious. Aware of it, but it believes also it's dead and determined by it.Not sure how we ended up discussing the trinity or void but otherwise it's an interesting view of "self consciousness".
For a while I saw the subconscious self as the enemy. Pretty much how you've describe this higher functioning region.
I've come to see neither as the enemy. Just different aspects of the mind. Part of the mind is self conscious, which is analytical, rational in that it evaluates status of the rest of the body/mind. It tries to evaluate itself as well. Its own conscious existence but it can't. It can't really observe itself so it creates a faux identity.
I suspect you realize this already cause it certainly can seem to be just as you describe. Some beliefs, like Buddhism teach you to let go of the illusion of self. To just be, exist as the observer.
To exist in the world however, we have to maintain some type of identity. However we don't have to be controlled by it.
Some even see the story of Adam and Eve as the narrative of how man became self conscious. Our defiance of God in deciding our own fate. The freedom to choose to act against what God created.
In deciding for ourselves, we take all the risk, suffer all of the consequences of the choices we make.
I prefer the risk of making my own choices even though it's not always the most comfortable position to be in.
Not separate the only reality of separation exists in the cranium at the self labeled region of the brain that has labeled itself higher functioning. Zero evidence of it actually literally being some "magical higher functioning" aspect. That region is always attacked at the deepest Wells of all metaphysics founders regardless. Over time all metaphysic traditions get over run frozen rock to the fire of the founders. Buddhism is not magically exempt no metaphysics ever is regardless. Buddha came as fire today lots of Rock talk about buddha not buddha. It to can fall into self labeling buddhism is and really it's just the faux, dysfunctional "higher functioning" part of brain. I love buddhism don't get me wrong btw it does have a bit more clarity but it must all align to fire in all metaphysics or we just have rock talking about outerspace. Confused to say the least. . Big fire coming as mushroom.Belonging to an eastern Buddhist school, I do think Buddha-nature/consciousness is a reality unto itself. In a certain manner of speaking...
interesting choice of imagesNot separate the only reality of separation exists in the cranium at the self labeled region of the brain that has labeled itself higher functioning. Zero evidence of it actually literally being some "magical higher functioning" aspect. That region is always attacked at the deepest Wells of all metaphysics founders regardless. Over time all metaphysic traditions get over run frozen rock to the fire of the founders. Buddhism is not magically exempt no metaphysics ever is regardless. Buddha came as fire today lots of Rock talk about buddha not buddha. It to can fall into self labeling buddhism is and really it's just the faux, dysfunctional "higher functioning" part of brain. I love buddhism don't get me wrong btw it does have a bit more clarity but it must all align to fire in all metaphysics or we just have rock talking about outerspace. Confused to say the least. . Big fire coming as mushroom.
I will let you figure that metaphor out yourself. Sometimes telling people has exactly the opposite effect of what is intended that's also a fact. Buddhists practice koans for that exact purpose.
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What experience doesn't exist neurologicalally? In order for the statement to have validity other than simply being obvious and self evident it has to have some idea that there is that there such a reality magically independent from neurology. So the statement is not objective it's neurology pointing at neurology claiming experience only exists in neurology. That's clearly false with a simple walk in nature
That's essentially what I said.we are it we can't say that is it.
Indeed!!! They grow around here abundantly!! Only one death can be attributed to them when a man ate 30 of them. I like the redness of this one very fire ish. I was at a state park in a class a state park official talked about mushrooms mentioned ones that are a very serious felony to pick called locally azzys. They are some of the most potent in the world. I asked is it illegal to pick deadly mushrooms he said no. I said " so you are saying, mushrooms that can kill us dead are totally legal to pick but the ones that might alter our perceptions are illegal?" he paused started to laugh and said "yes".. I said "that makes total sense" about 30 people were laughing with most of us curious about azzys.interesting choice of images
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So the question is whether the experiences are *solely* neurologic or whether they correspond to something that isn't just inside of our heads. Walking in nature means we interact with something other than ourselves. Dreams aren't like that.