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9-18-1

Active Member
Moses told the Israelites they could keep women of the cities they raided as part of the plunder. So, by your process, even the Bible is "Satanic."
But Satanism forbids unwanted sexual advances. Rape and slavery are explicitly prohibited, and not once condoned or permitted or reaffirmed. Rule-for-rule, practice-for-practice, Satan is far more peaceful, moral, and pro-social than any of the Abrahamic religions.

Nice deflection; typical response from an Islamic apologist who is completely unaware of the true foundation of these esoteric teachings.

The only problem is the Bible is a collection of mythological narratives based on astrology. Moses is a depiction of the sun, just as Abram/Abraham is (Sarai is the moon), just as Jesus is a depiction of the sun surrounded by the twelve zodiacal signs (twelve tribes of Israel, twelve apostles). The four gospels are depictions of the four solstices/equinoxes wherein the sun transits.

https://www.amazon.ca/Astrology-Tes...1515301287&sr=8-1&keywords=lost+word+regained

and

https://www.amazon.ca/Who-this-King...&qid=1515301305&sr=1-4&keywords=king+of+glory

and

https://www.amazon.ca/Gospel-Zodiac...&qid=1515301331&sr=1-2&keywords=bill+darlison

In order to join Islam, one must perform the Shahada, which is a testimony that there is no God or deity to worship, there is only Allah, and Muhammad is the final messenger of Allah. In the ten commandments, testimony against thy neighbor is forbidden.

If the Qur'an is not divinely inspired (it is a historical book as demonstrated above) then:
-It necessarily follows that Muhammad was a liar/insane, or both, and
-It necessarily follows that Islam is a man-made religion.

So upon performing the Shahada, any action, belief, behavior etc. adopted on those grounds all constitute violations of this commandment. From here, such actions as mistreatment of women, killing (over 270 000 000 non-Muslims have been killed in jihad - never mind the in-fighting that has existed in Islam for 1400 years), coveting possessions, coveting females as sex slaves in military jihad etc. are all contrary to the same commandments (which were inscribed in stone as to suggest they are solid as stone).

As such Islam as a religion/socio-political (totalitarian and fascist) belief system is based on the carnal desires of man. One only needs to observe the corruption in Saudi Arabia, what is happening in Sweden with the women, and indeed all Western nations suffering under Islamic non-military jihad.

As such all monotheistic religions which take a perverted and "literal" interpretation of these esoteric teachings are "Satanic" - including mainstream Christianity. Christ is in the sun, and the sun one perceives in the sky is not only without, but within. Christening occurs within each individual provided they learn the Mazzaroth (as per the book of Job):

Mazzaroth - Wikipedia

Everything is astrological - Islam is just a sick perversion, just as literalist Christianity is. They are all Jesuit owned-and-operated to enslave people. That's why the globalists are using Islam to destabilize everything - because they own these monotheistic religions.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Are there any ancient scrolls, clay tablets,or testaments that are said to be existing from the same time frame of ancient Christianity that focuses solely on God's adversary, whether that be Satan or Lucifer, or what other name may apply? We know there are snippets about Satan and Lucifer in the biblical accounts.

We do know from time to time, other characters have their own accounts like the book of Judas, Book of Lilith etc. Primarily from the Apocrypha.

Where is Satan's or Lucifer's side of the story taken from that era? Are there any ancient writings in existence?

I think anything like that would make an interesting read that would round out Christian mythology as opposed to just one-sided allegories and stories.
GREAT question.

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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I guess if you believe the devil looks like this you might believe it is the actual testimony of the devil.

codex-gigas2.jpg
Well it was a medieval
I guess if you believe the devil looks like this you might believe it is the actual testimony of the devil.

codex-gigas2.jpg
It is an ancient codex taken from medieval times. This has an interesting story to how this codex came about.

Codex Gigas - Wikipedia

It's the oldest codex I could find so far.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Here's a pretty freaky account of the legend of the monk who wrote it from the wikisource. Apparently Satan had finished it. Kind of gives you Goosebumps reading it.


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"According to one version of a legend that was already recorded in the Middle Ages, the scribe was a monk who broke his monastic vows and was sentenced to be walled up alive. In order to avoid this harsh penalty he promised to create in one night a book to glorify the monastery forever, including all human knowledge. Near midnight, he became sure that he could not complete this task alone so he made a special prayer, not addressed to God but to the fallen angel Lucifer, asking him to help him finish the book in exchange for his soul. The devil completed the manuscript and the monk added the devil's picture out of gratitude for his aid.[1][23][24] In tests to recreate the work, it is estimated that reproducing only the calligraphy, without the illustrations or embellishments, would have taken five years of non-stop writing.[11]

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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
typical response from an Islamic apologist who is completely unaware of the true foundation of these esoteric teachings.
Since when has saying Abrahamic religions are crap compared to Satanism made one an Islamic apologist?
 

9-18-1

Active Member
Since when has saying Abrahamic religions are crap compared to Satanism made one an Islamic apologist?

Since the knee-jerk response one conjures in response to my proposal deflects the discussion away from Islam entirely.

What does the Bible have to do with the doctrines of Islam? Absolutely nothing; not even Muslims believe anything in the Bible as they love to tout that it has been changed by man therefor it is no longer reliable. Why even bring it up other than to apologize for Islam?
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
That is an illustration made by Christian monks in a book that includes the whole of the Christian Bible.

Catholic monks. Same people who came up with Santa Claus. Whatever they added to the bible is worth about as much.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
You're certain of this, because...?

Because I believe the New Testament is the same spirit as the Old Testament. For instance, The LORD was very much a minimalist, Jesus was also a minimalist. The Catholics and everything they do is the complete opposite.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
What does the Bible have to do with the doctrines of Islam? Absolutely nothing; not even Muslims believe anything in the Bible as they love to tout that it has been changed by man therefor it is no longer reliable. Why even bring it up other than to apologize for Islam?
Islam grew out of Christianity and Judaism, they claim the god of Abraham, and they are instructed to read the Bible. They may not accept Jesus as Messiah, but they do accept him as a prophet.
Stating fact does not make one an apologist. Declaring both books to be equally "Satanic," but offering rebuttal stating Satanism denounces and rejects both books and prohibits many of the things that were OK in both books, that pretty much entirely disqualifies on as an Islamic apologist.
Catholic monks. Same people who came up with Santa Claus. Whatever they added to the bible is worth about as much.
If you knew the book that particular illustration comes from, I doubt you'd so quickly dismiss it because it is truly a wonder and tome of great fascination and curiosity. And it isn't definitely known who did write it. Though the legends of a monk selling his soul and writing in a day or so most likely aren't true.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Islam grew out of Christianity and Judaism, they claim the god of Abraham, and they are instructed to read the Bible. They may not accept Jesus as Messiah, but they do accept him as a prophet.
Stating fact does not make one an apologist. Declaring both books to be equally "Satanic," but offering rebuttal stating Satanism denounces and rejects both books and prohibits many of the things that were OK in both books, that pretty much entirely disqualifies on as an Islamic apologist.

If you knew the book that particular illustration comes from, I doubt you'd so quickly dismiss it because it is truly a wonder and tome of great fascination and curiosity. And it isn't definitely known who did write it. Though the legends of a monk selling his soul and writing in a day or so most likely aren't true.

Islam is not Christian..it did not spring up out of Christianity. The most basic premise of Christianity is that Jesus is the Messiah...
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Islam is not Christian..it did not spring up out of Christianity. The most basic premise of Christianity is that Jesus is the Messiah...
I didn't say it is Christianity. And, yes, it does descend from Judaism and Christianity. Muslims accept the prophets, they include Jesus as a prophet, and from there Islam was developed. Very comparable to how Christianity built upon the Tanakh, accepting the prophets, but claiming one has fulfilled the Messianic prophecies, which established Christianity. It's why some people use the term "Abrahamic religions," or "Abrahamics," to refer to these three religions that all claim the god of Abraham, with Judaism being established first and the two later comers "piggy backing" of its predecessor religion.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I didn't say it is Christianity. And, yes, it does descend from Judaism and Christianity. Muslims accept the prophets, they include Jesus as a prophet, and from there Islam was developed. Very comparable to how Christianity built upon the Tanakh, accepting the prophets, but claiming one has fulfilled the Messianic prophecies, which established Christianity. It's why some people use the term "Abrahamic religions," or "Abrahamics," to refer to these three religions that all claim the god of Abraham, with Judaism being established first and the two later comers "piggy backing" of its predecessor religion.

No, the only reason Christianity can branch out of Judaism is the Jesus himself is the LORD of the old testament. The same leader of the Jews. So it's not piggy backing, it's a continuation. Islam does not have the LORD's authority to do what they do.
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
Anyone who doesn't accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior is obviously possessed by Satan.
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Yes but we only have the heritical gnostic version. There is an original gospel version that was lost. So I wouldn't say that STL is a reliable source text. Now it's believed the actual source text folded into an interdimensional state, and occasionally flips back into this dimemsion on occasion. There have been a large number of sightings but since it never stays in this dimension there is no scientific proof it even exists.
 
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