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Few reasons why Muslims should not celebrate "New Year"

Ah....... so you are a Shia Muslim, yes?
Do you live in Iran?
Why are the Iranian people demonstrating so much, just now? Are they upset with the Theocracy there?
No

You seem to have been brainwashed into believing that we all 'party' and commit adultery on New Year.

Instead of cementing all that indoctrination inside yourself, why don't you investigate for yourself?
I dont know about you, but majority of people who live in the west commit adultery. Western countries are in a big mess.
In America & Europe women can walk half naked, this wouldnt happen in an Islamic country. Your people commit adultery all the time. You have thousands of prostitutes. Sharia law is the only solution to this cancer.
 
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shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
1.) As Muslims we have our own Hijri calendar, we must reject gregorian calendar because it is not from Islam. The gregorian calendar was made by Pope Gregory (a pagan worshipper). According to our hijri calendar the new year actually begins on the first of Muharram.

2.) On such a day majority of people listen to music, drink alcohol and commit adultery.
This is a great evil and a Muslim should stay away from such things.

3.) It is against the spirit of Islam.

4.) What exactly is there to celebrate?
Thousands of Muslims are dying and starving to death in Africa, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq...etc and you want to enjoy your life?

Let them eat and enjoy themselves and be diverted by [false] hope, for they are going to know. 15:3

I empathize with your concerns about alcohol, but people celebrate New Year's Eve (December 31 - January 1) in many different ways and some without alcohol like me. It is not my New Year, but I can find appropriate fellowship. My New Year as a Baha'i is March 21. I also celebrate with friends the Winter solstice on December 21.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
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sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
No

I dont know about you, but majority of people who live in the west commit adultery. Western countries are in a big mess.
In America & Europe women can walk half naked, this wouldnt happen in an Islamic country. Your people commit adultery all the time. You have thousands of prostitutes. Sharia law is the only solution to this cancer.
The West is fine. It's the fundamentalist Islamist views you are espousing that is the cancer that needs to be extirpated.
 

Aldrnari

Active Member
No

I dont know about you, but majority of people who live in the west commit adultery. Western countries are in a big mess.
In America & Europe women can walk half naked, this wouldnt happen in an Islamic country. Your people commit adultery all the time. You have thousands of prostitutes. Sharia law is the only solution to this cancer.

What you say of the west hasn't been my experience at all. It doesn't represent what me, my family, or my friends do. Every corner of the west is filled with vastly different cultures that are starkly different from each other. Instead of casting judgement, maybe you should truly seek to understand first. You come across to me as someone consumed in hatred and anger, and that can't be healthy...
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
majority of people who live in the west commit adultery.
Do you live in the West?

Western countries are in a big mess.
Contrast this to the region that has constantly been at war for as long as anyone alive can remember.

In America & Europe women can walk half naked, this wouldnt happen in an Islamic country. Your people commit adultery all the time.
I have to wonder just what you're considering "adultery".

You have thousands of prostitutes.
So does the Middle East.

Sharia law is the only solution to this cancer.
Sharia law is a mockery of law, humanitarian efforts, and justice as a whole.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
I just wondered why you were so 'big' aboput hadiths, that's all.

I dont know about you,
.....correction: You don't know about 'us'.

but majority of people who live in the west commit adultery.
We do? You know this, how?
How about you all?

Western countries are in a big mess.
The World is in a big mess, always has been.
But I don't think the history of Islamic countries shows a more balanced or peaceful existence, quite frankly.

In America & Europe women can walk half naked, this wouldnt happen in an Islamic country.
Women? Half naked? Look, it's true that a woman could go shopping in any of our cities wearing just a bikini with credit card pushed under bra or pants, that's true. But we're not going to let any group of fanatics interfer with out freedom about that.
And everybody here is governed by our equality laws so all religions must obey our laws.
Folks cannot beat up their daughters or kill them here without answering to the criminal law.

Your people commit adultery all the time.
You've already said that...... repeating yourself.

You have thousands of prostitutes.
I do wonder why you're so interested in this perception. Can you spot them easily?
Have you ever looked for them for any reason?

Sharia law is the only solution to this cancer.
What........ loads of self-righteous bullies beating up girls who were on a night out?
We'd put you in prioson, here, friend. We don't put up with amateur vigilantes here.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
I empathize with your concerns about alcohol, but people celebrate New Year's Eve (December 31 - January 1) in many different ways and some without alcohol like me.
The Scots get (generally) so boozed up that Scotland gets 2nd January as a national holiday so that they can recover, not that I think it's a great idea that the OP will know that, now. :p

It is not my New Year, but I can find appropriate fellowship.
Yep..... great.

My New Year as a Baha'i is March 21.
Psssst....... that'll really start him off!

I also celebrate with friends the Winter solstice on December 21.
Excellent and very old tradition. Great.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the third of three." And there is no god except one God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment. 5:73

And say, "Praise to Allah , who has not taken a son and has had no partner in [His] dominion and has no [need of a] protector out of weakness; and glorify Him with [great] glorification." 17:111

Who are the people of the book?
Who are Ahlul Kitab( The people of the book) - islamqa.info
Muslims are free to believe what they want to believe. But selective quoting is a characteristic of certain kinds of arguments that I dismiss as invalid.
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
No

I dont know about you, but majority of people who live in the west commit adultery. Western countries are in a big mess.
In America & Europe women can walk half naked, this wouldnt happen in an Islamic country....
... Sharia law is the only solution to this cancer.
The internal violence of Muslim society towards minoritys is a greater cancer than women walking about in short clothes.
 

Muslim-UK

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Sunni Muslims from all over the World say that most Iranians are not Muslims. Not just Saudis.
As a Sunni Muslim I can tell you, the vast majority of Sunnis view Shia Muslims as fellow brothers and sisters including those who live in Iran.

May Allah swt bless the Ummah of Muhammad pbuh.
 

Muslim-UK

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Billions of us will NEVER submit to Islam. So.... how is that going to work?

I should think once Jesus pbuh returns, the majority of people will happily revert to the straight path. Those too stubborn or proud can expect to fall on the sword of Jesus pbuh.

Luke 19:27 "But bring here these enemies of mine, who did not want me to rule over them, and slaughter them in my presence.'"
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I should think once Jesus pbuh returns, the majority of people will happily revert to the straight path. Those too stubborn or proud can expect to fall on the sword of Jesus pbuh.

Luke 19:27 "But bring here these enemies of mine, who did not want me to rule over them, and slaughter them in my presence.'"
Always the happy thoughts, eh. Conform, submit or die. Nope. No compulsion there. :)
What's to dislike about the death cult that is Islam?
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
If someone is takfir-ing other Muslims, you can pretty much guarantee they are Sunni (obviously it is not something that the majority engage in though).
Thankyou for the info..... :)
I guessed 'shi'ite' because of the mention of hadiths, which I always had imagined that Sunni Muslims ignored.

Got some strage ideas about us, some folks have..... :p
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
As a Sunni Muslim I can tell you, the vast majority of Sunnis view Shia Muslims as fellow brothers and sisters including those who live in Iran.

May Allah swt bless the Ummah of Muhammad pbuh.

This is wonderful news, and it's just great to know that Sunni and Shia hands are held in unity throughout the World. Excellent.

On the side..... Who do you think is murdering Shia Muslims at their meetings places in Kabul just lately? Any ideas?
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
.............
Luke 19:27 "But bring here these enemies of mine, who did not want me to rule over them, and slaughter them in my presence.'"

...and you believe that? Really?

Do you believe anything written by a Levite Doctor, who never saw or heard Jesus ever, never took part in Jesus's campaign, and who wrote that Nativity account?

Well...... if you believe it.... :shrug:
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Always the happy thoughts, eh. Conform, submit or die. Nope. No compulsion there. :)
What's to dislike about the death cult that is Islam?

You've hardened up over the years! :p
I remember your posts to me about the little boy from Cardiff beaten to death because he couldn't remember his Qu'run lines, and the tough treatment in some madrassas here. (All being put right now, I read).
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I dont know about you, but majority of people who live in the west commit adultery. Western countries are in a big mess.
In America & Europe women can walk half naked, this wouldnt happen in an Islamic country. Your people commit adultery all the time. You have thousands of prostitutes. Sharia law is the only solution to this cancer.

That is neither true nor logical even if it happened to be true.
 
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