Noah and the Flood

[Thief]

please take note....we are not discussing science
for this thread.....

your reaction to the story

I care not if you believe it happened

what does it mean to you?

 

[Kemosloby]

It was the opposite of the global warming hoax. Noah said there's going to be a flood but the world says do business as usual and do not worry about a flood. Now the world says to worry about a flood and do business as we tell you to, then you will avoid a flood. But there is no flood, unlike in Noah's story where the was a flood nobody believed, in Global Warming many believe yet there is no flood, no danger except whatever man devises for the unbelievers.

 

[Thief]

and along with the op....I was about to put forth a similar notion
what to worry about?

I was about to propose that the story may have been misgiven
and instead of a physical event of the past....it could be prophecy

maybe it hasn't happened yet
and the text we have, has been retold incorrectly

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

It was the opposite of the global warming hoax.

<yawn>

long overdue: ignore-list​

</yawn>

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

please take note....we are not discussing science
for this thread..... your reaction to the story I care not if you believe it happened

what does it mean to you?

The story means nothing to me.

I can tell you the story, but it remains a meaningless one. A God regretted its handiwork - the creation of a race of sinful human beings - told a man to collect animals and build an ark in anticipation of a global flood that would kill whatever terrestrial life wasn't on the ship so that this god could start over and create a sinless race of human beings using the same sinful breeding stock.

Where is there meaning there? Anybody?

 

[WalterTrull]

I’ve often pondered the Noah story.

It doesn’t really matter to me if it happened or not – could have.

I tend to think of it as analogous to our passing. We lose the world, but we take all the beasts with us. I was hoping not, but at least we take the clean beasts by sevens. Unfortunately, we take the unclean in reproduceable numbers. We are kept safe for a time, yet hunger (raven) for release makes us reach out of our safe place. It is love (dove) that eventually brings us out though. Maybe something to remember.

Could be, maybe not. Just my thinking. I like it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The story means nothing to me.

I can tell you the story, but it remains a meaningless one. A God regretted its handiwork - the creation of a race of sinful human beings - told a man to collect animals and build an ark in anticipation of a global flood that would kill whatever terrestrial life wasn't on the ship so that this god could start over and create a sinless race of human beings using the same sinful breeding stock.

Where is there meaning there? Anybody?

It is merely another example that the "God" of Genesis was not omniscient, that he was not omnipotent. It merely depicts a very human god with human failings. I really don't know what values that a Christian can get from it. Perhaps the OP has some sort of values that he can get from the myth.

 

[Brickjectivity]

It means that violence, if allowed to thrive, will destroy the world. At the end of the story the covenant is with Noah and also with all living creatures, and a total elimination of violence is expected and required. This covenant anticipates the eventual taming of all dangerous beasts, the elimination of wars to be replaced with peaceful living.

There is another part of the story where Noah and his sons are living on the ground again, and Noah gets drunk and screws around. He's caught by his son, Ham; and the result is that Ham loses his position in the family. There is a lot of pointless speculation about the subsequent relationship between Shem, Ham and Japheth. This part of the story has been used by some church members as an apology for racism, but this story is not about genes. Its not about where white and black people come from. Its about Noah's mistake and Ham's mistake. The entire world has just been destroyed, and now the sole survivors are already screwing the new one up. This ends the story on a plaintive note of warning and could relate to a certain Bible law about not drinking in certain situations.

 

[Sanzbir]

In the Quranic narrative, at least, I'd say the story is mainly about the rejection of the prophets. Even when receiving warning of immediate danger the warning goes unheeded by some.

It was a story of God giving clear warning of impending danger, but that warning being rejected by those in power who wished to cling to their positions of power. Those heeding the warning survived, and those who ignored the warning for their own selfish desires did not.

 

[Nakosis]

please take note....we are not discussing science
for this thread.....

your reaction to the story

I care not if you believe it happened

what does it mean to you?

It's where rainbows come from.

 

[Jainarayan]

what does it mean to you?

Nothing. I turn to other stories (far more colorful and meaningful imo) for lessons on righteousness, unrighteousness, and their punishments and rewards.

 

[Skwim]

Noah and the Flood

please take note....we are not discussing science
for this thread.....

your reaction to the story

It's one of the more ludicrous myths in religion, and probably in all of literature.

what does it mean to you?

Its acceptance means that there are a lot of gullible people in the world.

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[sun rise]

Since we're not talking about science here, the Bible picked up the story from earlier sources. The translation of the earlier name is given as "repose' or 'rest'. I suppose that if I were motivated enough I could construct a teaching story using that name etc from the myth but this particular story does not call my attention to it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

please take note....we are not discussing science
for this thread.....

your reaction to the story

I care not if you believe it happened

what does it mean to you?

A fun tale to read. Same as reading Aesop Fable's without any moral to the story.

 

[Sanzbir]

I know going ahead that this will be nitpicky, but your comment strikes me as absurd.

It's one of the more ludicrous myths in religion,

Keeping in mind that there are people who believe there was a male God who bet a Giant the Giant could not build a wall in an allotted time, and then, when it looked like the Giant would win the bet, the God turned into a female horse so he could seduce the Giant's magic stallion, causing the Giant to lose the bet and the God to become impregnated and give birth to a magical, 8-legged horse...

Keeping in mind there are people who believe that there was a God who turned himself into a swan so he could make love to a woman...

Keeping in mind all the myths out there, the one you deem "of the more ludicrous" is a big flood??

and probably in all of literature.

And Surrealist literature proves that assertion wrong.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Since we're not talking about science here, the Bible picked up the story from earlier sources. The translation of the earlier name is given as "repose' or 'rest'. I suppose that if I were motivated enough I could construct a teaching story using that name etc from the myth but this particular story does not call my attention to it.

I think it transformed previous stories, changing the message of them.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

I know you said not to bring science into this discussion, but examining all the evidence together...yes, imo it occurred.

Violence was the reason for God causing it.

The similarities between Greek, Roman, Norse, etc. mythologies (all have gods sleeping with human females and producing offspring, i.e., Hercules, et.al.) indicate some truth forms their basis, and they provide further explanation of Genesis 6:1-3.

It tells me that when society gets real bad, God will step in again (after the issue of sovereignty raised in Eden [Genesis 3:1-6, which gives the reason why Jehovah has, for the most part, stayed out of human affairs] is completely settled), keeping his human children from ultimately destroying the Planet and themselves.

And those who don't want his rulership, who don't want to see Matthew 6:9-10 fulfilled, will be gone, too. Those who died at the Flood, may receive a Resurrection. That's the hope for everyone. (John 5:28-29) But This time around, at Armageddon, those who refuse God's rulership will be destroyed forever! - Revelation 16:14-16; Psalms 37:9-11.

I had to state my reasons; but to succinctly answer your question:

It tells me that when society gets real bad, God will step in again.

 

[metis]

It was the opposite of the global warming hoax...But there is no flood, unlike in Noah's story where the was a flood nobody believed, in Global Warming many believe yet there is no flood, no danger except whatever man devises for the unbelievers.

So, you ignore the science and accept the Flood narrative as if it's a historical fact. Figgers.

 

[metis]

IMO, the main point of the allegory is don't ****-off God unless you can really tread water.

 

[Kemosloby]

So, you ignore the science and accept the Flood narrative as if it's a historical fact. Figgers.

You're supposed to put " " around that type of science. Like this, yes I ignore the "science" and take Noah's ark story as fact.