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God's Love

Tmac

Active Member
When you were testing gods love did you break the first commandment also?

I always thought god should be more pro-active and like lightening bolt some people when they do heinous atrocities.

Of course, I put many things before God and the "love" never changed.

All I can say is perhaps God has a greater understanding of love than you do?
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
Of course, I put many things before God and the "love" never changed.

All I can say is perhaps God has a greater understanding of love than you do?

Have you ever read the Bible? The god character featured there doesn't know the meaning of the word, love. In fact if it actually exists instead of being the fictional character I believe it to be, humans should be looking at ways of exterminating it.
 

Tmac

Active Member
I dont understand. If you accidently broke all commandments, god would forgive. Since you did so intentionally, what is the justification for his forgiveness in unconditional love?

Spiritual growth is when you follow gods commandments as best you can. If you break one accidently, then that is growth towards a stronger relationship. When you intentionay cheat or break that commandment, that harms the relationship.

If you intentionally killed just because, I can see unconditional love as forgivess. Since you killed to test god, I dont see how that can be forgiven unless you asked.

When you ask you are spiritually growing, admitting what you did. Since you did this intentionally against god, what is the justification of the revelation?

I mean. If one can be forgiven for intentional actions, one can sin all the time and everything will be fine.

Listen to yourself, God's Commandment - follow them as best you can - what part of thou shalt not, sounds like, do the best you can?
 

Tmac

Active Member
Have you ever read the Bible? The god character featured there doesn't know the meaning of the word, love. In fact if it actually exists instead of being the fictional character I believe it to be, humans should be looking at ways of exterminating it.

That's just what I'm talking about, your problem is with the bible and the god it painted for you, my God pre-exists religion and or religious thinking, I got no problem with it, it is where life comes from.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Of course, I put many things before God and the "love" never changed.

All I can say is perhaps God has a greater understanding of love than you do?
Heck doesn't even have to be striking the person, just a strike right next to them to show a person, "hey I saw that".
 

Tmac

Active Member
Heck doesn't even have to be striking the person, just a strike right next to them to show a person, "hey I saw that".

I hear you and I think I understand where you are coming from.

Maybe that is the motive behind the last two mass murders in the US, if god is not going to do it I will, or better yet God old me to do it.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Let me ask you this if Jesus, whom you seem to revere, preached forgiveness and to love one another with out condition, where did he get this idea?

First show where that is Written at first.
Jesus said to love one another, but never said with out condition.
There's always a condition to everyone's love.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Listen to yourself, God's Commandment - follow them as best you can - what part of thou shalt not, sounds like, do the best you can?

You intentionally broke the commandment. How does any person follow a law the best they can by breaking it on purpose?

Im not questioning your spiritual growth. Everyone is different. If I believed in god, I would not break the law to understand his unconditional love. To me, thats in anway cheating and assuming that god would continously love me regardless how many times I cheat.

That is me.

Maybe with you its a one time thing. I understand if someone murdered and god will forgive. I dont understand murderering to test god. That, I find more of a issue is testing god for a revelation.

Everyone learns differently. I see that as a contradiction. I thought god gives love to those who try (edit: not to) intentionally and unintentionally break his commandments. Try not to murder to get gods love. Not murder in order to receive it.

Understand where I come from?
 
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Tmac

Active Member
You intentionally broke the commandment. How does any person follow a law the best they can by breaking it on purpose?

Im not questioning your spiritual growth. Everyone is different. If I believed in god, I would not break the law to understand his unconditional love. To me, thats in anway cheating and assuming that god would continously love me regardless how many times I cheat.

That is me.

Maybe with you its a one time thing. I understand if someone murdered and god will forgive. I dont understand murderering to test god. That, I find more of a issue is testing god for a revelation.

Everyone learns differently. I see that as a contradiction. I thought god gives love to those who try to untentionally break his commandments. Try not to murder to get gods love. Not murder in order to receive it.

Understand where I come from?


When did you learn that God loves you?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
When did you learn that God loves you?

Through the sacraments of christ.

Some people go to confession and receive god's forgiveness for sins they intentionally commit. They feel "god will forgive them anyway" so its an excuse to sin. I never understand that until I went to confession many times. It can be addictive more than support.
 

Tmac

Active Member
Through the sacraments of christ.

Some people go to confession and receive god's forgiveness for sins they intentionally commit. They feel "god will forgive them anyway" so its an excuse to sin. I never understand that until I went to confession many times. It can be addictive more than support.

When, at what age?
 
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