I had to laugh. I'm not even dating anyone. Can you imagine to women fighting over whose right? We'd have to draw a truce.
I agree that that most religious adherents see their religions as totally relevant for them. I would argue that, within each faith, their are universal teachings applicable to any age.
I forgot this part of your quote:
"However within each religion their are teachings that are no longer relevant or applicable."
I think you may have meant to write:
We do hold other religions in high regard, though clearly not as relevant as today
But, yes, you're right. You meant "do." Didn't say it though.
Is that right? Is so I agree with you.
In my head, is if they are not relevant for today as above, why would you hold them at high regard. If something is not relevant, how does it affect the validity of your faith? -that's like saying, I love this furniture piece so you buy it even though it doesn't match your living room set.
Of course you agree with yourself. What I'm saying, the color doesn't match with the rest of the decor no matter how much you like it. (Woman for ya!)
The problem is, to Christians and Jews, the Baha'i Faith is extremely insulting and disrespectful.
First we say the Baha'i Faith represents a progression on these two religions, so that means we're better.
Second, we appear to either remove, change, or distort core teachings of their faith. It is like gutting a fish!
The Baha'is say, we believe all these things about Christ you believe in, but sorry, there is no resurrection, no Jesus as God incarnate, and no exclusive salvation through Christ.
Then the Baha'is have the audacity to effectively say we have the true Teachings of Christ, and you Christians have got it wrong.
The reason for the uproar isn't your belief in and of itself. Bahai believe whatever they believe. As you notice Vinayaka is more considered with anyone misrepresenting his faith. I don't care for cultural misappropriation because of my experiences and values. We all bring our different values to the table; and, when we are challenged by our values, we play victim.
1. Yes. To Christians (and Jews?) the Bahai
faith is disrespectful. It's saying one thing about scripture when scripture says something entirely different. Also, it's saying Bahaullah has the correct and current authority over the validity of scripture. No other christian scholar, priest, so have you has it right.
I don't know how Jews reacted to this. I don't see them on the thread. They probably rolling their eyes like other christians and muslims reading on.
2. Your belief does distort the truth
to christians who believe in it. It does distort the truth
to hindus who believe in it. You are overriding the practitioners of these faiths and their role in knowing the validity of their own scriptures as opposed to your own. (bahallauh).
You may respect christians rights told hold their belief, but you don't respect that they give you valid information about their own belief when Bahaullah says otherwise.
That is what calls wars.
3. Yep. The best you can say is that you hold christian teachings as interpreted by bahaullah in high regard,
not christian teachings or scripture themselves as it imposes you know more than the practitioner who studied and practice his faith for years compared to many bahai who have no christian background.
Then the Baha'is have the audacity to effectively say we have the true Teachings of Christ, and you Christians have got it wrong.
Well, I keep trying to get ya'll to be blunt about it instead of going around the bush. If christian teachings or scripture are clearly not relevant for today's age then christians believe in irrelevant teachings, by logic, not opinion, aren't following the correct scriptures as they should. As a result, they should be following Bahaullah's teachings because he holds the correct scriptre and interpretations of revealed scripture of today.
So the Baha'is unwittingly, with their enthusiasm for their religion, have become this massive thorn in the side for Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Atheists, pagans...everyone!!!!!!!
Haha. From our perspective, probably. To me, I think it's just silly that The Buddha would be a manifestation of god. Cute, maybe
Manifestation no.
Krishna is another one. That makes no sense at all either. The Buddha was a human being. You can make human beings whatever you want especially since they can't speak for themselves. Krishna is god. So, that is pure polytheism to believe in Krishna and god of abraham regardless of how you see them connect.
The
fact they do not regardless of your beliefs is the issue.
You're mixing facts with beliefs. You can make Krishna whatever you want but most Hindu on RF are very, well, I can't think of the word, stingy about anyone saying what Krishna is when that person is not Hindu. You cant go by the Gita. You don't have the cultural and linguistic,
and practice to have any authority to interpret it.
Doesn't matter how much Bahaullah did or did not write about Krishna. The point is, he's a manifestation and it is false.
Has nothing to do with Bahai personal opinion. Each of you really do have different views, three of you not even the same teachings from Bahaullah that I had to look it up for myself to pick which of you are right.
Is that right!?
Haha That's right.
Better thing to do is learn about other religions and their teachings from homosexuality and woman's rights to who is The Buddha in relations to its followers and how is Brahma, Vishnu, and Krishna differ when they are all god. Stuff like that.
We love you to death, Bahai. I mean, I read so much about Bahai, I know more about my stance on equality issues and even more so how they can cause wars when people don't learn about each others views.
I said in another post, if you want to learn about homosexual marriage, you have to be interested in how LGBTQ community sees marriage. You have to more so not just understand it intellectually but have empathy and understand the morality of it in their shoes
as your own. (Don't worry, you can get your shoes back!)
If you can't imagine that two men actually marry (not gay marriage; not homosexual marriage; just marriage), have sex after marriage, raise children, grow old, and die together, then you only know surface knowledge of what it means for two
people to be married.
If you want to learn about marriage or other religions that you disagree with, you have to go further in your learning. You have to apply the knowledge that you learn so understanding would make both parties comfortable communicating.
Each party will feel they are understood and appreciated and you guys can move on to other topics within any religious faith so all won't feel left out.
If it was a Bahai DIR, then yeah, ya'll can jump up and down all day. Since it's not, that's why the uproar.
