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The Pope is the Antichrist!!!

Spiderman

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What is a real Christian?

I can't tell you how many times I've heard that the pope is the Antichrist.

This completely contradicts what scripture says about testing the spirits:

1 John 4:3
By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.”

According to the scripture, the pope is okay and indeed a good spirit

I also constantly hear that the whore of Babylon is the Catholic Church.

Funny that this accusation comes from people who claim to be Bible Christians. It's a proven fact that the Catholic Church put together the first Christian Bible. These people get their Bible from the whore of Babylon... Since Catholicism is the religion of the Antichrist, what makes you think that they made the right decision when they put together your new testament Canon, and how do you know that they didn't tamper with the book?
 
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Spiderman

Veteran Member
Truth be told, at one point I thought I might be the anti-christ. xD
Not lying.
Me too... I'm serious... The One World Government and New World Order was going to be the Holy Roman Empire... I thought I was going to use the forces of necromancy, voodoo, magic, and the occult to lead the world astray and found a cult... Now I recognize that as a schizoaffective delusion.

Do you have schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorder?
 

Mister Silver

Faith's Nightmare
Me too... I'm serious... The One World Government and New World Order was going to be the Holy Roman Empire... I thought I was going to use the forces of necromancy, voodoo, magic, and the occult to lead the world astray and found a cult... Now I recognize that as a schizoaffective delusion.

Do you have schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorder?

I might be a high functioning aspergers.
 

Shadow Wolf

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What is a real Christian?
Yeah, ya know, because the story of the good Samaritan didn't involve two people of different whatever they were (I want to say nationalities, but it's been a very long time since I've read it).
Truth be told, at one point I thought I might be the anti-christ. xD
Not lying.
I drove past a church once, and the transformer going to it blew as I went by.:D
 

Stevicus

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I've been watching The Borgias on Netflix this past week. It gives an interesting portrayal of the Papacy and the intrigue of Italian politics in the 15th century. I'd like to think that the Church has cleaned up their act a bit since those bad old days, but who knows?
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I've been watching The Borgias on Netflix this past week. It gives an interesting portrayal of the Papacy and the intrigue of Italian politics in the 15th century. I'd like to think that the Church has cleaned up their act a bit since those bad old days, but who knows?
Every powerful institution has corruption... The church has cleaned up its act a lot. There are no longer Crusades, inquisitions or killing of Heretics, thank God!
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Yes there are many in Christianity that are being taught the great whore, Babylon the Great, The Mother of Harlots as being the Roman Catholic Church.

Which is not True.

If a person would trace back to Babylon , They would find that Babylon first got it's name back at the tower of Babel during Nimrod's day.

So the question would be, How exactly did the Roman Catholic Church get to be back at the time of Nimrod ?
And then from there to the time of Daniel the Prophet's day?

Very interesting ?

But yet people will say, the Roman Catholic Church came by the disciples ?

Again Very Interesting ?

If you were to look at the colors that the Roman Catholic Church has and the colors given in the book of Revelation 17:4,
A person could very well come to believe that the Roman Catholic Church is the Mother of Harlots.

But then Christ Jesus foretold in the book of John 7:24--"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment"

Therefore just because the Roman Catholic Church holds the same appearance in colors as does The Mother of Harlots has, does not constitute the Roman Catholic Church has being the Mother of Harlots.

But alot of Christians will say, You can not judge, But yet they themselves think nothing of it to Judge another?
 
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kjw47

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What is a real Christian?

I can't tell you how many times I've heard that the pope is the Antichrist.

This completely contradicts what scripture says about testing the spirits:

1 John 4:3
By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.”

According to the scripture, the pope is okay and indeed a good spirit

I also constantly hear that the whore of Babylon is the Catholic Church.

Funny that this accusation comes from people who claim to be Bible Christians. It's a proven fact that the Catholic Church put together the first Christian Bible. These people get their Bible from the whore of Babylon... Since Catholicism is the religion of the Antichrist, what makes you think that they made the right decision when they put together your new testament Canon, and how do you know that they didn't tamper with the book?


The religion that came out of Rome was not the religion Jesus began. None of her branches fixed it because of errors in translation, and alterations to mislead. Facts prove their errors. The teachings of Jesus prove their errors. Their own bible proves their errors. I don't know how any one can believe them--only those that don't know the bible I guess.
The whore of Babylon = worldwide false religions--99% are false--Jesus started a single religion-1Cor 1:10)
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
The religion that came out of Rome was not the religion Jesus began. None of her branches fixed it because of errors in translation, and alterations to mislead. Facts prove their errors. The teachings of Jesus prove their errors. Their own bible proves their errors. I don't know how any one can believe them--only those that don't know the bible I guess.
The whore of Babylon = worldwide false religions--99% are false--Jesus started a single religion-1Cor 1:10)
All you demonstrate is that God is a terrible guide who can't be trusted. What good can God do at guiding anyone?

Because for quite a few centuries, the only Christian churches on the face of the Earth Were Catholic.

If protestantism is the truth, how pathetic God is for waiting till the 16th century to introduce the world to protestantism.

Not to mention, Protestants arent biblical either, because they follow a Bible alone Doctrine, and no Bible says anything about the Bible being the final and sole rule of sacred theology.

Protestantism is a joke! At least the anti-catholic sects are .

They claim the Catholic church is the Religion of the Antichrist, which means they got their Bible from the religion of the Antichrist. The religion of the Antichrist put together the first Christian Bible and decided the New Testament Canon that Protestants accept.

If the church is the religion of the Antichrist, why do you trust that the church chose the correct books to put in the New Testament Canon anyway?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The religion that came out of Rome was not the religion Jesus began.
False, as any serious historian will tell you. The church kept records of appointments from the get-go, and we see that process quite clearly in Acts and some of the epistles.

The "mark" of the early church was not the Bible but was whether your bishop was appointed going all the way back to the apostles. It was the apostolic church that chose your Bible and not the other way around, and that was not done until the latter 4th and early 5th centuries.

None of her branches fixed it because of errors in translation, and alterations to mislead.
There were different translations of Torah and the Tanakh, plus Judaism hadn't yet chosen its own canon so there no official text to go by. As new information came in from the DSS, for example, corrections were made, but if you actually look at these corrections they're quite minor. Matter of fact, both Catholic and Protestant texts are pretty much the same today in any good translation, such as the RSV or NAB.

Their own bible proves their errors. I don't know how any one can believe them--only those that don't know the bible I guess.
That's highly debatable to say the least since anyone who has ever engaged in any serious Bible study well knows that interpretations can and do vary.

The whore of Babylon = worldwide false religions--99% are false--Jesus started a single religion-1Cor 1:10)
Maybe it's referring to the JW's, kjw47. ;)

Again, knowing the history would help you understand that what was happening, which also shows up in Acts, was that different people and later different groups were claiming that the apostles were teaching the wrong things and using the wrong texts.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
All you demonstrate is that God is a terrible guide who can't be trusted. What good can God do at guiding anyone?

Because for quite a few centuries, the only Christian churches on the face of the Earth Were Catholic.

If protestantism is the truth, how pathetic God is for waiting till the 16th century to introduce the world to protestantism.

Not to mention, Protestants arent biblical either, because they follow a Bible alone Doctrine, and no Bible says anything about the Bible being the final and sole rule of sacred theology.

Protestantism is a joke! At least the anti-catholic sects are .

They claim the Catholic church is the Religion of the Antichrist, which means they got their Bible from the religion of the Antichrist. The religion of the Antichrist put together the first Christian Bible and decided the New Testament Canon that Protestants accept.

If the church is the religion of the Antichrist, why do you trust that the church chose the correct books to put in the New Testament Canon anyway?


It wasn't fixed until here in these last days( Daniel 12:4)--The new world translation fixed the errors.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
False, as any serious historian will tell you. The church kept records of appointments from the get-go, and we see that process quite clearly in Acts and some of the epistles.

The "mark" of the early church was not the Bible but was whether your bishop was appointed going all the way back to the apostles. It was the apostolic church that chose your Bible and not the other way around, and that was not done until the latter 4th and early 5th centuries.

There were different translations of Torah and the Tanakh, plus Judaism hadn't yet chosen its own canon so there no official text to go by. As new information came in from the DSS, for example, corrections were made, but if you actually look at these corrections they're quite minor. Matter of fact, both Catholic and Protestant texts are pretty much the same today in any good translation, such as the RSV or NAB.

That's highly debatable to say the least since anyone who has ever engaged in any serious Bible study well knows that interpretations can and do vary.

Maybe it's referring to the JW's, kjw47. ;)

Again, knowing the history would help you understand that what was happening, which also shows up in Acts, was that different people and later different groups were claiming that the apostles were teaching the wrong things and using the wrong texts.



Their own bible exposes their falseness. It condemns to the core the usage of statues, icons, graven images--yet their churches and homes are filled with all 3.
Their bible teaches--Do not call any man Father( in a spiritual teacher sense)--yet they do.
Etc
Etc
Etc
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Their own bible exposes their falseness. It condemns to the core the usage of statues, icons, graven images--yet their churches and homes are filled with all 3.
"Graven image" is never defined in the Tanakh, therefore scholars are really not certain what precisely it pertains to. However, idol worship is considered to be pretty much a "given" as being forbidden, but after that they don't know. In some orthodox Jewish circles, even a photograph of a human or an animal is believed to possibly be a "graven image".

BTW, do you keep kosher? If not, then what you are doing is picking & choosing which Jewish Law you wish to keep. There simply is no reference in the NT that forbids statuary other than those produced to serve as idols that are worshiped, and Catholics don't do the latter, which is contrary to the propaganda that your JW leaders brainwash their flock to believe.

Their bible teaches--Do not call any man Father( in a spiritual teacher sense)--yet they do.
This has been covered many times before since the word "father" as used in some churches has a different source than one's use of "father" in regards to one's family.

BTW, who's married to your "mother", kjw47? I betcha you use the word "father" a lot. So, according to your JW's interpretation, you also are violating the teaching.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
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What is a real Christian?

I can't tell you how many times I've heard that the pope is the Antichrist.

This completely contradicts what scripture says about testing the spirits:

1 John 4:3
By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.”

According to the scripture, the pope is okay and indeed a good spirit

I also constantly hear that the whore of Babylon is the Catholic Church.

Funny that this accusation comes from people who claim to be Bible Christians. It's a proven fact that the Catholic Church put together the first Christian Bible. These people get their Bible from the whore of Babylon... Since Catholicism is the religion of the Antichrist, what makes you think that they made the right decision when they put together your new testament Canon, and how do you know that they didn't tamper with the book?

I believe you shouldn't pay any attention to them. They are way off base.
 
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