questfortruth
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I can not see here the dis-proof of the trueness of the sentence "All bachelors are unmarried", can you?
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Gravitational waves in Newton theory are 4-th order, in Einstein's are 2-nd!!!
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DavidFirth
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Well.....there's mischief in my phrasing (the old Wolfgang Pauli barb).I like the way I said it but thanks for your input.
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leibowde84
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A very cromulent observation, my graduated friend.
leibowde84
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No one can. It is an a-priori truth in that it is true simply because of what the words mean. It is impossible to disprove an a priori truth.
More significant than not being disprovable is that it can be proven true.
Can't do that with a posteriori thingies.
questfortruth
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So, there are some formulas in Scientific books, that have no doubt accompanying them. Nice to know.
leibowde84
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Of course not. Where did you even get that from? What a silly thing to say.
1+1=2 is not a formula. It is a mathematical equation. There are mathematical equations in math books that have no doubt accompanying them, sure. But, formulas and theories in Scientific books will always inherently contain some doubt.
At the expense of renouncing any accountability to the real world (TM), but sure.
In the same sense that a street address' name is "absolute".
You are not grasping the basics of the concepts, unfortunately.
Anything based upon observation (inductive reasoning) will have some level of doubt.
But things a priori, are without doubt....but doubt arises in applying a priori models to
the natural world.
To restate....the models are "true" because they're based upon axioms.
Example.....
10 - 1 = 9
This is true, based upon the axioms defining the numbers & operators.
But in the real world, this model doesn't always apply.
Consider 10 birds on a branch.
Shoot one....how many are left?
None, because the other 9 heard the shot, & flew away.
Altfish
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As Charles Bukowski said...
“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.”
Indeed. And not least Mach.
questfortruth
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For your information: math is a respectful Science branch. Even Physics uses results of Mathematical Science, so, provided, that previous steps in Physics paper are true, the mathematical conclusions in Physics are doubt-free.
The Science is Quest for Knowledge, so if there is no dogmatic knowledge, then there is always a doubt. Doubt = No Knowledge, No Knowledge - No Quest for Knowledge, No Quest - No Science.
Nope.
Math is a tool and an academic discipline. But it is not a branch of science.
No one who understands the basics of the concept of science would ever say such a thing.
questfortruth
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Total nihilism. The atheism, is the absolute solipsism, because word "Reality" is defined as "Reality is what comes from God." Do you have alternative definition?
Reality is the totality of all things that have objective existence.
God doesn't have objective existence. God exists only in the imagination of individual humans.
Not nihilism. Awareness of the basic concepts.
Uh, no. That is not even remotely close to the truth.
No, I stick to the classics.
There never was "laws of nature". it's right about here, where science and religion spin into la la land together, like a dance between two delusionial lovers.